Progressive Reloading For The .223

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I just received my Hornady LnL AP Progressive press and I'm attempting to reload some .223 for my new Norc CQ-A which should be here in the near future.

I'm having stuck case issues.
I've tried both the Lyman and Hornady spray lubes with no success.

I've done as others have instructed and sprayed the lube into a ziplock baggie and shook the casings around till they were well coated.
I then removed them from the baggie and let them stand for 5min. as instructed.
I'm still getting 1/30 cases stuck. If I lube the cases individually with my Lee lube I have no issues but that doesn't lend itself to progressive reloading with a case feeder.

Any suggestions?
 
I am having the same issue. I have a can of Lyman spray and it seems like every 8th case I experience a stuck case in the die. I am using a Lee Cast progressive loader with Lee dies. I never experienced this with the Lee case lube but like you, I am not thinking that is all that "progressive". I just recently bought a RCBS small base die set to try out but I think it is the type of lube that is the issue and not the die. I never tried RCBS's lube yet.
 
Are you using carbide dies? (yes I know you still need to lube) Still, carbide dies make things go way smoother.
I have used Lyman spay lube too, but now generally stick with the Dillon stuff. I spray them on a cookie sheet to ensure an even coating and them dump them in the case feeder.
Unless you know you need the small base die, I'd dump it and stick with a regular full length die.
 
I did some more resizing this evening and I noticed a few things I was doing wrong. I think I might have improperly adjusted my resizing die. I screwed it in about a 1/2 turn lower then the raised shell holder on the press. I re-adjusted the die to just touching the shell holder and that made a difference. I also noticed the brass didn't look all that dirty but when I rubbed on the lube instead of spraying it on, it made a huge difference. I cleaned my die out and reapplied lube inside the die. The LEE die is a carbide die but the RCBS die was standard steel. The RCBS die didn't give me any grief this evening, not compared to the LEE die but the LEE die is also a well used die.
 
I use a progressive for loading .223 but I don't do it all with the progresive press.

I found it alot easier to completly prep my brass (deprime, resize, trim, reprime) then run them through the progressive to load them. Much better quality ammo this way.

I have also gound that you are looking for grief using spray on lubes. Sure its faster and easier, but only till you get a stuck case. Unique case lube is the only way to go IMHO.

Cheers!
 
beltfed said:
Are you using carbide dies? (yes I know you still need to lube) Still, carbide dies make things go way smoother.
I have used Lyman spay lube too, but now generally stick with the Dillon stuff. I spray them on a cookie sheet to ensure an even coating and them dump them in the case feeder.
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Ditto, except I tended to dump them into a 5 gallon pail and let them dry overnight.

With the Dillon pump lube applied sparingly, and the Dillon Carbide dies, I never had a stuck case. Early on I was using too much lube, and was surprised at how little I needed.

I used a box about 18x24 inches, cut to about a 5 inch tray. I'd dump in brass and give it a shake to try to minimize the number of cases overlapping. I'd mist from about a foot over the box moving in one direction, then shake the box again and remist in the opposite direction.

I would toss the lubed cases into the pail and let them dry overnight. The lube would remain good for weeks.
 
i have been using lyman lube mixed with rubbing alcohol in a spray bottle. put a bunch of brass in a container with a screw on lid, give it a few squirts then shake it until evenly applied. in the few thousand cases i have resized and deprimed not one stuck case with my 550b.
 
My LGS had the RCBS #1 Lube Die in stock so I bought it today.

My plan is to use the lube die in station #1 to lube and decap and the sizing die in station #2.
I will trim, swage the primer pockets (if needed) then tumble to remove any remaining lube.

I will then set up the press with a universal decapping die in station #1 just in case any media gets stuck in the flash holes, priming occurs between stations 1 and 2, powder measure in station #2, RCBS Lock Out die in station #3 and my sizing and crimping die in station #4.

Does anyone suggest anything different?
 
Clean brass in tumbler
spray lube from Frankford Arsenal
run through body die in single stage press
back into tumbler to get rid of lube

into Lee 1000 progressive with lee collet neck die, primer, powder die and seater.

Works like a charm, no jams in dies and ammo runs 100%

Jerry
 
thump_rrr said:
I've done as others have instructed and sprayed the lube into a ziplock baggie and shook the casings around till they were well coated.
I then removed them from the baggie and let them stand for 5min. as instructed.
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I had the same problem with stuck casing. It was entirely not letting the alcohol evaporate from the lube after they'd been coated in the ziploc bag. I'd mixed unique lube and 99% isopropyl alcohol (looks like skim milk). I'm only using a single stage press, but sized maybe a thousand without anymore sticking since letting them sit a wee bit longer.
 
make sure the spray lube has complete dried. I had many stuck cases by following the instructions of spray and waiting 15 minutes. Alcohol dries at different rates depending on humidity and temp.

Now I spray really well, shake and roll then dry overnight.

Also make sure the dies are clean.
 
I just resized 3000 .223 last month with hornady dies, lnl progressive and hornady one shot. What I did was get a tray of some sort and lay the cases side by side, necks facing you. I'd give them a shot of spray, from about 45 degrees so that some spray gets into the necks. Wait for that side to dry, then roll them over and repeat. Once dried (only about 5 mins or so) I'd start feeding them through. I did it this way instead of throwing them all in a bag or something just so that I could be sure the brass was covered 100% with the lube, including the necks.

The cases were clean and shiny before starting, and I didn't get any stuck.
 
notsorichguy said:
I use a progressive for loading .223 but I don't do it all with the progresive press.

I found it alot easier to completly prep my brass (deprime, resize, trim, reprime) then run them through the progressive to load them. Much better quality ammo this way.

I have also gound that you are looking for grief using spray on lubes. Sure its faster and easier, but only till you get a stuck case. Unique case lube is the only way to go IMHO.

Cheers!
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YEP !

Clean brass in tumbler
spray lube from Frankford Arsenal
run through body die in single stage press
back into tumbler to get rid of lube

into Lee 1000 progressive with lee collet neck die, primer, powder die and seater.

Works like a charm, no jams in dies and ammo runs 100%
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AND YEP ! But, with a different progressive.

Incorporating your SS press into your procedure like this (I re-size/de-cap small batches upon return from the range in preparation for a larger "progressive" run), is just as convenient, trouble free, and keeps guck (lube) away from your progressive. After you re-size, lube isn't needed for the remaining steps. I've never had a stuck case using this method. I have a Hornady L&L progressive and use Dillon dies.
 
For whatever reason, Hornady One SHot spray lube seems to suck with the .223

I just install a RCBS lube die and go nuts. Works great, and not even with carbide dies.
 
jackenape said:
I just resized 3000 .223 last month with hornady dies, lnl progressive and hornady one shot. What I did was get a tray of some sort and lay the cases side by side, necks facing you. I'd give them a shot of spray, from about 45 degrees so that some spray gets into the necks. Wait for that side to dry, then roll them over and repeat. Once dried (only about 5 mins or so) I'd start feeding them through. I did it this way instead of throwing them all in a bag or something just so that I could be sure the brass was covered 100% with the lube, including the necks.

The cases were clean and shiny before starting, and I didn't get any stuck.
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Which type of One Shot did you use?
I used the non toxic in the pump spray bottle.
I haven't been able to find the aerosol anywhere locally.
 
Canuck223 said:
Ditto, except I tended to dump them into a 5 gallon pail and let them dry overnight.

With the Dillon pump lube applied sparingly, and the Dillon Carbide dies, I never had a stuck case. Early on I was using too much lube, and was surprised at how little I needed.

I used a box about 18x24 inches, cut to about a 5 inch tray. I'd dump in brass and give it a shake to try to minimize the number of cases overlapping. I'd mist from about a foot over the box moving in one direction, then shake the box again and remist in the opposite direction.

I would toss the lubed cases into the pail and let them dry overnight. The lube would remain good for weeks.
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+1 on the Dillon carbide sizing die, good investment
 
tumbler

this is the way I do it
deprime
then put all my cases in my tumbler
in the tumbler put also let say about 10 strip on cotton soak with imperial was
not to much and then tumble all for a few minutes and your cases will be all lubed with imperial wax which I think is great or you may use some regular lube
after I put all my loaded round back in the tumbler with some corn cub and a bit of lighter fluid and tumble them for a few minutes, they come out squeaky clean
MY TUMBLER HAS A VARIABLE SPEED MOTOR SO PUT IT ON SLOW WITH LIVE AMO
for this operation after putting your rounds in fill almost to top with corn cub so their will be just enough movement to rub the rounds, this way its safe never had a problem
 
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