PROHIB Replica firearms 500fps or lower

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I currently have a Beretta 92 FS replica that I wanted to sell. However, according to the Canadian Firearms Program I am unable to do so.

Ref: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/air_gun-arme_air-eng.htm

3. Air guns that are replica firearms

These are air guns that are not powerful enough to cause serious injury or death, but that were designed to resemble a real firearm with near precision. Replica firearms, except for replicas of antique firearms, are classified as prohibited devices.

In particular, some air guns that are commonly called air soft guns may fall into this category. These are devices that have a low muzzle velocity and muzzle energy, and that usually discharge projectiles made out of a substance such as plastic or wax rather than metal or lead.

Although replica firearms are prohibited, you may keep any that you owned on December 1, 1998. You do not need a licence to possess them, and they do not need to be registered. However, as an individual, you cannot import or acquire a replica firearm. If you take a replica firearm out of Canada, you will not be able to bring it back in.

The Criminal Code sets out some penalties for using a replica firearm or any other imitation firearm to commit a crime.

The Canada Firearms Centre (CAFC) receives many enquiries from people wondering whether a low-powered air gun would be considered a replica if it resembles a real firearm in terms of its shape and size, but it is made of clear or brightly coloured plastic, or is much smaller in size.

Many of these devices have to be assessed on a case-by-case basis. As a general rule, however, those made out of clear plastic and those that are significantly smaller than the real version are not classified as replicas. Brightly coloured paint does not necessarily exclude a device from the definition of a replica.

If I am misinterpreting please advise. :canadaFlag:
 
bs prob crap !

Although replica firearms are prohibited, you may keep any that you owned on December 1, 1998. You do not need a licence to possess them, and they do not need to be registered. However, as an individual, you cannot import or acquire a replica firearm.




this is bs because i have a .177 cal berreta 92 fs that i bought at daves army in new west about 2004 2005 and they still sell these things
so how can they be prob and they can still sell them ?
 
greekguy76 said:
Although replica firearms are prohibited, you may keep any that you owned on December 1, 1998. You do not need a licence to possess them, and they do not need to be registered. However, as an individual, you cannot import or acquire a replica firearm.




this is bs because i have a .177 cal berreta 92 fs that i bought at daves army in new west about 2004 2005 and they still sell these things
so how can they be prob and they can still sell them ?
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It's a pellet gun not a replica firearm.
 
mcpiper said:
It's a pellet gun not a replica firearm.
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My gut would say it follows this more than anything else:

2. Air guns that meet the Criminal Code definition of a firearm, but that are deemed not to be firearms for certain purposes of the Firearms Act and Criminal Code.
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but "my gut", as you may know, is not an officially-sanctioned legal/CFC authority...;)

It all hinges on how you intepret:

3. Air guns that are replica firearms
These are air guns that are not powerful enough to cause serious injury or death, but that were designed to resemble a real firearm with near precision.
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Is that first line to the exclusion of air guns encapsulated in point # 2 - i.e. is it saying that air guns encapsulated in # 2 cannot be "captured" in point # 3? :confused:

Or is it despite classification in point # 2, an air gun can still be "captured" under point # 3? :rolleyes:

The point: it's not clear. For all you/I know, point # 3 could solely been designed to "capture" toy-guns that do not discharge any projectile, or discharge projectiles at extremely minimal velocities. :yingyang:
 
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seriously now, if you bought it in a outdoor goods shop (which you probably did), do you seriously think it would be prohibited?
 
They are quite common and sought after by the airgun crowd.I might buy it myself if the price is right.They are built by Umerex and is one of the nicer ones they make.They are under 500fps and completely legal.I had a copy of a P99 made by them and am sorry I sold it.
 
Uh... I just bought one at Al Flaherty's last week.

All the online airgun sellers stock this, and other "replica" firearms.

So I can't believe there is anything illegal about them.
 
gandalfe said:
They are quite common and sought after by the airgun crowd.I might buy it myself if the price is right.They are built by Umerex and is one of the nicer ones they make.They are under 500fps and completely legal.I had a copy of a P99 made by them and am sorry I sold it.
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I have a UMEREX 1911a1 colt ,all steel, very realistic from a distance and very LEGAL . The ,p99 ,colt &,beretta would make for a nice collection !
 
Got this one all black, and the nickel, with wood checkered grips.
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Their accurate at 10 m, very nice.
 
Trying to kill a gopher with that would be very cruel. Also hunting with airpistol might not be allowed where you are.
 
nabiul said:
Trying to kill a gopher with that would be very cruel. Also hunting with airpistol might not be allowed where you are.
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I'm not hunting, and if the little bastards want to dig up the foundations on my deck and eat my flowers, he has it coming. Currently I am using a crappy tire special break action pump pistol seems to work okay however I don't get a quick followup shot if needed. Cruel? It's a lot more humane then poison or traps that also whack the neighbour's cats... I'd call this a 'targeted' measure.
 
Back on topic, I agree with the comment that they are not replica firearms on the basis that they fire projectiles. To be clear, pellet guns are not replicas. If it did not fire a pellet, it would be a replica.
 
Well if it does shoot a pellet it can still be prohibited. Can you tell me the velocity which separates the replica from the non replica? What is the threshold in Joules?
 
lord-humungous said:
Back on topic, I agree with the comment that they are not replica firearms on the basis that they fire projectiles. To be clear, pellet guns are not replicas. If it did not fire a pellet, it would be a replica.
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And yet an airsoft gun fires a projectile and is classified as prohibited (at least in the eyes of the CBSA) :rolleyes:
 
You could try shooting a CBSA goon in the eye with an Airsoft gun... Then let him decide if the Airsoft gun can or cannot cause serious bodily harm... Not that you should shoot anyone in the eye of course!!
 
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