Prohibited Ammo in Canada

Black Talons are nothing more than hollow point bullets with a black coating, the media turned them into some kind of ultimate deadly buzzsaw that would turn you inside out if shot by one, so due to bad publicity Winchester dropped them. In reality they were no worse than any other premium hollow point ammo and the Ranger SXT ammo is basically the same, just not black.
 
Yeah, the Ranger SXT's are just Black Talons w/o the moly coating. I suppose if somebody was lucky enough to get shot with one, then some "John F. Kennedy magic bullet" like properties cause the slug to hold position and continue with its rotation - yes, the there would be some damage. That controversy was on just about the time I started to shoot seriously. You should have heard the dumb questions from even dumber people I got. 60 Minutes could likely convince the public that smoking greatly enhances your health, mind, and spirit.

They just looked so damn cool all nicely expanded. An engineer's worst nightmare... to design something that works too well.
 
Black Talons are nothing more than hollow point bullets with a black coating, the media turned them into some kind of ultimate deadly buzzsaw that would turn you inside out if shot by one, so due to bad publicity Winchester dropped them. In reality they were no worse than any other premium hollow point ammo and the Ranger SXT ammo is basically the same, just not black.

they changed them because they were nicknamed "Black felons"......Not too PC. They had to change the RCMP targets from black to green as well, Just in case.
 
prohibited ammo

Hi;

Is 5.7 x 28 still prohibited in Canada? I've heard some canadian gun shops were selling it, they've run out of stock.

If it is not prohibited, do you know where this ammo can be bought and whether there are any reloading components available for it?

Thanks,

Well that depends on where your target is located.
 
where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.

So if it does exceed 15mm in diameter its legal??? 40mm grenade launcher and explosive shotgun shells here I come!!!!
 
I am looking for .45 acp that is reasonable in price. I do not seem to find anyone else than BDX in Alberta who carries the .45, and if they do, they want an arm and a leg... and your pistol for that matter...
Any leads?
P.S. I shoot lots...
 
am looking for .45 acp that is reasonable in price. I do not seem to find anyone else than BDX in Alberta who carries the .45, and if they do, they want an arm and a leg... and your pistol for that matter...
..and u placed this comment in a prohib ammunition thread because???:kickInTheNuts:
Maybe you would be better served placing it in the Ammo forum...:D
dB
 
looking to import some rubber bullet/beanbag rounds for my 12 ga. as well as some smoke, and some "boomer blanks". Can anyone advise as to whether or not it is legal to possess these rounds, also if I am able to have them shipped to me from the states?

Cheers,
Aaron
 
looking to import some rubber bullet/beanbag rounds for my 12 ga. as well as some smoke, and some "boomer blanks". Can anyone advise as to whether or not it is legal to possess these rounds, also if I am able to have them shipped to me from the states?

Cheers,
Aaron

NO ammo, or components leave the US without a US export permit. Only a US registered exporter can apply for a permit. Plus the ammo must also be on the Canadian Approved ammo list for it to be imported. http://www2.nrcan-rncan.gc.ca/mms/lae-lea/index.cfm?lang=eng

Take a look at several threads in the Ammo and Legalese sections about the consequences of trying to bring them across without permits. Little things, ;) like you will be a felon in the US, and after they are finished with you, you will never be allowed back into the US or even fly over or near US airspace.

Do NOT CONFUSE Canadian IMPORT with US EXPORT regulations. You must comply with BOTH. The US State Department handles US Export Permits, except for shotguns which are through the Commerce Department.

Take a look at this site sponsor for an idea of what it takes to export from the US. BTW, exporting ammo from the US is not too much different than exporting a firearm. http://www.davessports.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=9&Itemid=64
 
Rubber, beanbag, etc. are perfectly legal in Canada, if approved by NRCAN.

You can also import up to 5000 rds for personal use, without NRCAN approval.

From the US requires export permits, as above.
 
You can also import up to 5000 rds for personal use, without NRCAN approval.

From the US requires export permits, as above.

I know you have already likely explained this a million times, but...

given the following scenario,

I plan on going to the USA to do some Christmas shopping, what would I need to do to be able to bring back up to the 5000 rounds?

A couple points to consider 1) Would I have to know EXACTLY the ammo I am going to buy down to the brand and part number (which would mean knowing for sure the vendor I was going to would have that) & 2) is that 5000 rounds total or 5000 round per type, or per caliber?

I know you are a business fellow but, with the parity of the dollar 1) should we expect domestic ammunition prices to drop and 2) is the us price significantly cheaper to justify, even considering at $ parity for one to as an individual to attempt this import?

Given that most hollow point handgun ammunition can be/is available to us in Canada now, is it just a headache to try an individual import?

thanks for you time.
 
I know you have already likely explained this a million times, but...

given the following scenario,

I plan on going to the USA to do some Christmas shopping, what would I need to do to be able to bring back up to the 5000 rounds?


thanks for you time.

The paperwork for the US Export permit MUST be handled/submitted by a US Registered Exporter to the State Department. You would then have to get the corresponding Canadian Import permit. All of this takes TIME, (think weeks/months) so you are not just going to drive down, buy it and drive back.

Because of the cost of the US Export Permits, it is not worthwhile for small quantities of ammo unless it is specialized, and/or expensive.

Read the link above for Dave's Sports to give you an idea about Exporting from the US.
 
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