Prohibited Ammo in Canada

Prestwich said:
I know you have already likely explained this a million times, but...

given the following scenario,

I plan on going to the USA to do some Christmas shopping, what would I need to do to be able to bring back up to the 5000 rounds?

A couple points to consider 1) Would I have to know EXACTLY the ammo I am going to buy down to the brand and part number (which would mean knowing for sure the vendor I was going to would have that) & 2) is that 5000 rounds total or 5000 round per type, or per caliber?

I know you are a business fellow but, with the parity of the dollar 1) should we expect domestic ammunition prices to drop and 2) is the us price significantly cheaper to justify, even considering at $ parity for one to as an individual to attempt this import?

Given that most hollow point handgun ammunition can be/is available to us in Canada now, is it just a headache to try an individual import?

thanks for you time.
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Short answer is no exports from the US, unless done by a registered dealer.

HP ammo is fine in Canada.

500o rds total for import

Ammo prices in Canda are based primarily on demand and the tiny buying power of the Canadain market, and the high cost of operating in Canada.
 
Did I not read a bit further back, that you didn't need the Canadian permit if it was under 5000 for personal use? So you would need the US one from a vendor something. Not planning to do it, was just asking "how?". I prefer to leave that type of thing to the guys that know best like CanAm and Wolverine etc. etc..
 
CanAm said:
Rubber, beanbag, etc. are perfectly legal in Canada, if approved by NRCAN.

You can also import up to 5000 rds for personal use, without NRCAN approval.

From the US requires export permits, as above.
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Who is NRCAN?? and how do i find out if the rounds are approved?
 
Prestwich said:
Did I not read a bit further back, that you didn't need the Canadian permit if it was under 5000 for personal use? So you would need the US one from a vendor something. Not planning to do it, was just asking "how?". I prefer to leave that type of thing to the guys that know best like CanAm and Wolverine etc. etc..
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I think the following needs to be stickied somewhere because I have answered this question about 12 times over the past 6 months here:

The Canadian government doesn't care about the ammo you import into Canada. The U.S. government cares about the ammo you export. The rules governing importation does not satisfy the U.S. government's requirements for export. This applies to primers, powders, brass, (components) and completed cartridges. All of those materials are on the ITAR list of components requiring exportation by license, and some materials cannot be exported at all. Starting cost for a single license for export is $250.00. This is to do it "legally."

Calculating in cost of fuel, use of your vehicle, your time (labor), the cost for the trip incorporating those things into the cost of the ammo or components, the cost between the ammo between the U.S. and Canada is not far enough apart to risk at best confiscation of your import, and at the worst arrest, detention, fines, or a permanent ban on returning to the U.S. The only time it becomes even remotely worth it is if you max out everything. (ammo, primers, powder, brass, etc. all on one short) However, you're still breaking "U.S." law.

If you want to get ammo for less than it is in the U.S., buy the components and re-load.

Choose to support Canadian firearms businesses by keeping your money in Canada and getting people into our sport. A supported market here encourages the same in return back to shooters.
 
Frangible

3. Any projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered so as to explode on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.


Is this apply to frangible ammo, my gun shop said it's legal to shoot them here , but illegal to take them home with you.

Any comments.
 
jobbass said:
3. Any projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered so as to explode on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.


Is this apply to frangible ammo, my gun shop said it's legal to shoot them here , but illegal to take them home with you.

Any comments.
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Typical gunshop BS.

Frangible ammo doesn't explode. It just comes apart into little tiny pieces.
 
Thanks to the LAR-15 Pistol by letter of the law then, ss109 rounds are now prohib in Canada as they are capable of being discharged from a commonly available semi-automatic handgun and are designed, manufactured or altered so as to be capable of penetrating body armour.
 
Deuce_0 said:
Thanks to the LAR-15 Pistol by letter of the law then, ss109 rounds are now prohib in Canada as they are capable of being discharged from a commonly available semi-automatic handgun and are designed, manufactured or altered so as to be capable of penetrating body armour.
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SS109 was never designed to penetrate soft body armor. Any centerfire rifle cartridge can do that already anyhow!
 
AK said:
SS109 was never designed to penetrate soft body armor. Any centerfire rifle cartridge can do that already anyhow!
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That is true, all center fire rifle ammo will pentrate soft body armour. However the code states "body armour", not soft body armour, and the ss109 was designed to penetrate helmets which constitute body armour.

It will be intresting to see the first time this one is challenged.
 
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