prone shooting a 458win?

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Someone in a past thread of mine mentioned that bench shooting a 458win would be like shooting one prone. Well I can't try any bench shooting yet as there is no range around for several hundred km so I figured I'd try prone. Anything I should be aware of before doing this? I can shoot the gun while standing without any issues and the flinch is pretty much gone. The gun in question is the one pictured but it now has a Burris scout scope mounted. Thanks.

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The key is to stop when you've had enough. I have found that my limit for powerful rifles is 3 shots prone. I have stretched this somewhat now that I've dropped down to a .375, but to try to shoot long strings in this manner serves little purpose. You might be pleasantly surprised with the first shot, get careless with the second shot and get hammered.

As to technique - make sure the recoil pad is centered in the pocket of the shoulder. Train yourself to keep constant pressure against your shoulder. Shoot off your elbows - do not drop down to a Hawkins position, as an injury could result. Try not to mash your cheek tight to the stock as it will snap your head back when the piece recoils. If you plan to shoot with a sling, get used to shooting without it first - the sling will help you to control muzzle rise, but it will increase the felt recoil significantly, and may cause you to use a tight cheek weld.

Let us know how much fun it was.
 
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The scope is scout mounted so his eye is not the concern.

Beautiful rifle, try it prone but your offhand practice is what really will count when that cape buffalo comes thru the grass.LOL>
 
I shoot prone a lot and there are some tricks to lessen the possibility of injury. Your scout mount is a blessing... I will purposefully back away from any scope the first time I shoot it prone, at least until I figure out how much eye relief I have got.
I like to bag the front stock heavily give it lots to rest on, or if shooting a bipod I will dig it in and pull it back a little. A sand bag under your armpit and biting the heel of the stock and recoil pad will help as well.
If you can find a position to shoot from where your legs and torso are lower than your shoulders and head it is much easier on the body too.
It is also helpful to get bit sideways from the rifle not straight back... your legs should be spread and out the left side of the centerline if you are a right hand shooter. Don't go to far to the side or your head comes over the top of the stock and it is not good.
Boomer gives great advice ... stop when you start to feel it!
 
Scruffy -
You want to be able to shoot your powerful rifle from all field shooting positions, including prone so that it's full potential can be utilized. If you are unable to use the rifle from field shooting positions, then the rifle is probably too specialized to be very useful as a hunting rifle. My .308 target rifle has the opposite problem, I can shoot it prone, but at 18 pounds it is a bit trying to shoot off hand. Obviously it is too specialized for hunting despite it's accuracy potential to take caribou way out there.

I've shot prone with the .458, 416 Rigby, and the .375 Ultra and H&H. I won't own a rifle I can't shoot prone, but thus far lesser cartridges in very light rifles or with poorly designed stocks have given me more difficulty. Shooting my 590 with 3" Federals prone is much less pleasant than any of the rifles I've owned, as it tends to snap my head back when I have a proper cheek weld.

In the field you don't know what opportunities you will have for a shot. A 300 yard shot is not difficult with a scoped .458, however it takes practice to be able to make such a shot with confidence. Most often prone cannot be used in the field due to intervening terrain or vegetation, although I've used it on occasion. Some supported positions such as leaning across a rock, a large tree trunk, or a mound of dirt or gravel will produce the same stability advantages as prone, with you body absorbing the recoil in the same way. The point I'm trying to make is that not all game shooting is at 25 yards. Even at 100 yards shooting from a rested position will enable you to make a surer shot. Marksmanship is not caliber dependent, so what is true in one case is true in another.
 
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I want to be able to shoot this gun prone for the hunting applications as Boomer has mentioned. I also want to be able to do it because as I mentioned in my original post, someone told me that shooting this thing off a bench at a gun range was like shooting it prone in the field. I plan on taking the beast to Montreal with me so that I can shoot it at the range. I just would rather get use to it up here in the middle of no where then at a range with 20 or so strangers there to watch me.
 
You gotta do what you gotta do:D . Get a good solid bag to support the butt stock, not unlike you see F-class shooters use. Take a bit of it to curl around the recoil pad of the rifle,and sink the lower buttstock into the bag. that is, a bag that can be formed. This will take up much of the recoil of the rifle. Let the bag take the shock.
Now this will work fine if your using a bipod.:)
 
First of all, get a decelerator or R3 limbsaver on that stock. And then ream the chamber to .458 Lott so you can really grow some chest hair and hold your head up high when you walk (limp?) off the firing line - lol.
 
It is quite possible to crack a shoulder bone with poor positioning of powerful rifles - make sure the butt is properly and evenly supported
 
Even from the standing position, a .458 WILL GET YOUR ATTENTION!
(personal experience)

Get one of those pin-on recoil pads. A spare clavicle might be handy too.;)
 
There is a considerable difference between shooting from a bench & shooting prone, for me anyway and especially with full power loads. Shooting from a bench your body is at almost 90 degrees to the gun and therefore there is a certain amount of 'give'. However prone your body is almost directly behind & in line with the rifle and the amount of give is minimal. Consequently, your body has to absorbe that recoil. I have two .458wm's and I have tried one shot prone. First & last!! In most cases this isn't a calibre to be used for long range shots, or longer range shots where a natural rest of sorts isn't available. If you anticipate having to use it for longer shots in open country, I would suggest getting a set of adjustable shooting sticks & pacticing with them.
 
The very last thing that you want to do with your big rifle is for it to hurt you... Once that happens .. all the good that you imagined would come into being from learning how to shoot prone with a frickin' elephant rifle is lost. Having hunted jumbo, water buffalo, and cape buffalo .. all more than once .. if you have to shoot prone at one of them ... they are wayyyyyyyyy too far !!! Practice off hand ... and maybe with shooting sticks .. if you have time for a normal 60 yard shot using a tree for a rest .. that big varmint is in a heck of a lot more trouble than you ...
 
Why in the hell would you want to shoot a .458 prone? It is designed to stop big nasty beasts from eating or trampling you. You wouldn't drop into the prone position to shoot a charging Griz would you??

It is not a long-range sheep rifle or even a decent mulie rifle so why shoot it any way but off-hand??
 
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