I admit I have trouble with making an accurate shot with a Mosin nagant the way it bucks and jumps around. Once I put a big muzzle break on it seems to be more controllable. I also flinch knowing what's coming. So anyway where is the proper position for your other hand to be? Just in front of the magazine or quite a bit further up? My trigger hand I prefer to put my thumb pointing forward not wrapped around, is this correct? What is the best way for accuracy? I can't hit a dinner plate at 100 yards and I see YouTube guys just standing hitting targets further than that.
Proper way to shoot a Mosin nagant?
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That flinch will have to be corrected for sure. Probably your biggest issue over grip.
To answer your question, I personally grip where it feels right and where the rifle will be held stable. Well in front of the mag with my non trigger hand. My thumb sorta straight up on my trigger hand. Both stable and firm but not crazy grip.
To answer your question, I personally grip where it feels right and where the rifle will be held stable. Well in front of the mag with my non trigger hand. My thumb sorta straight up on my trigger hand. Both stable and firm but not crazy grip.
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Sling all the way.
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Where are you placing the rifle? It needs to be held under the collar bone in the 'wing' of your shoulder. If it is touching the collar bone you will end up with some bruising. Overall practice helps, holding the rifle tight helps (less felt recoil when it is tight vs when it is held loose), and maybe shooting something lighter at first might help. Get a .22 to work on the basics, it will help kill that flinch and allow you to work on the fundamentals of shooting. Once the fundamentals are learned you will be able to move up easier.
There are three basic shooting stances, prone, sitting/kneeling, and standing. Standing is by far the most difficult, I personally am practicing this stance the most at the moment as I personally am not very good at it. Hope this helps and the best of luck!
There are three basic shooting stances, prone, sitting/kneeling, and standing. Standing is by far the most difficult, I personally am practicing this stance the most at the moment as I personally am not very good at it. Hope this helps and the best of luck!
It sounds like you're shooting from a bench on rested positions. That is the most "brutal" position to shoot from. The next is the "prone" position. Your body has to take up all of the recoil without being able to drain some of it off by being able to follow through as it pushes.
You don't mention which model of Mosin you're shooting. M91,91/30, M38 or M44.
If you'r shooting a M91 or M91/30, the sling helps, maybe. It only helps if you have it adjusted properly to suit your particular ergonomics but it is a pain in the butt as well as causes accuracy issues when shooting off the bench. It gets in the way and makes for an insecure rest on the front bag.
I find the first thing to tame the recoil on any of the M91, M91/30 and M38 models it to attach the bayonet. It adds weight to the rifle and settles down the harmonics. The rifles are sighted in from the factory with the bayonets fitted.
The next big thing most people do, especially when shooting from the bench is they don't hold the rifle properly. By that I mean they don't pull the rifle snugly against their shoulder when firing. This is understandable because IMHO most benches are to darn low to be conducive to comfortable shooting and I am not a tall man. Most shooters have to hunch over their rifles, which gives them and uncomfortable and unnatural position for aligning the sights to the target and is often a great way to develop a flinch.
The next thing is "proper trigger control." The MN rifles have two stage triggers. The proper way to use such a trigger is to take up the initial light pull and then slowly squeeze the heavy pull until the rifle fires. Many folks just pull the trigger all the way through both stages with one quick pull. This makes for a long/creepy pull that is long enough to allow a flinch between the beginning of the pull and the discharge such as a blink or tensing of muscles.
Now, I will admit I am very recoil sensitive. I need a shoulder replacement and just about any recoil at all is painful. This means I cheat. I don't shoot my milsurps anymore because of the recoil. I have attached muzzle brakes to my hunting rifles and when I do on the odd occasion shoot my milsurps, I use a PAST recoil pad. In some cases I use a lead sled. The sled works very well but it's a pain in the butt to haul the bags of lead to the bench from the truck and get set up.
Those fellows that you see shooting offhand in the videos do a lot of shooting. They should be able to hit targets offhand out to a couple of hundred meters without difficulty. If truth be told the same should be able to be said about anyone that hunts game animals. IMHO not nearly enough people know how to shoot or are able to shoot well from the standing position because they just don't practice enough.
You don't mention which model of Mosin you're shooting. M91,91/30, M38 or M44.
If you'r shooting a M91 or M91/30, the sling helps, maybe. It only helps if you have it adjusted properly to suit your particular ergonomics but it is a pain in the butt as well as causes accuracy issues when shooting off the bench. It gets in the way and makes for an insecure rest on the front bag.
I find the first thing to tame the recoil on any of the M91, M91/30 and M38 models it to attach the bayonet. It adds weight to the rifle and settles down the harmonics. The rifles are sighted in from the factory with the bayonets fitted.
The next big thing most people do, especially when shooting from the bench is they don't hold the rifle properly. By that I mean they don't pull the rifle snugly against their shoulder when firing. This is understandable because IMHO most benches are to darn low to be conducive to comfortable shooting and I am not a tall man. Most shooters have to hunch over their rifles, which gives them and uncomfortable and unnatural position for aligning the sights to the target and is often a great way to develop a flinch.
The next thing is "proper trigger control." The MN rifles have two stage triggers. The proper way to use such a trigger is to take up the initial light pull and then slowly squeeze the heavy pull until the rifle fires. Many folks just pull the trigger all the way through both stages with one quick pull. This makes for a long/creepy pull that is long enough to allow a flinch between the beginning of the pull and the discharge such as a blink or tensing of muscles.
Now, I will admit I am very recoil sensitive. I need a shoulder replacement and just about any recoil at all is painful. This means I cheat. I don't shoot my milsurps anymore because of the recoil. I have attached muzzle brakes to my hunting rifles and when I do on the odd occasion shoot my milsurps, I use a PAST recoil pad. In some cases I use a lead sled. The sled works very well but it's a pain in the butt to haul the bags of lead to the bench from the truck and get set up.
Those fellows that you see shooting offhand in the videos do a lot of shooting. They should be able to hit targets offhand out to a couple of hundred meters without difficulty. If truth be told the same should be able to be said about anyone that hunts game animals. IMHO not nearly enough people know how to shoot or are able to shoot well from the standing position because they just don't practice enough.
Every other rifle I have shot is fine but the mosin's in general are hard to shoot for me. Are they unbalanced compared to a Ross, Enfield, 1903A3? All other rifles shoot great except 91/30, m38, m44. I guess most of my other rifles are a smaller round. I love shooting .303 and the Swiss K31.
gewehr76
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MN 91/30 is very light in the front due to skinny stock and thin hand guard. So its very easy to hold and point. If you attach bayo, it will be balanced equally. Try shooting it with bayo attached.
100 pound Russian girl show you to hold Mosin rifle.
Great technique!
100 pound Russian girl show you to hold Mosin rifle.
Look at those arms! Somehow i doubt she's only 100lbs with pipes like that! Lol
I find that on the bench for best accuracy and recoil control, i grip the handguard and place my hand on the rest or bag, a single loop around the elbow with the sling. Also, to mitigate some of the punch while on the bench, i tuck the buttstock more into my chest muscle instead of the shoulder pocket, kind of like how you would when shooting a full auto. You have to square up shoulders with the bench a little more, but it makes the shooting experience much more pleasurable.
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Conscripts aren't allowed benches....
