Province proposing changes to moose hunt
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You can enter the draw as a group or as an individual in Ontario. Just supposedly easier to draw one as a group with tags guaranteed to groups of certain hunter numbers depending on how far north your willing to travel. The guaranteed group tags looks to be one of the items to be cut out in the new proposed changes.
So if you applied that to Ontario, 0in the units closest to the GTA you'd still need a dozen or more guys, and if you're in a small group or solo, you'd be looking at travelling 24 hrs or more to remote units with limited access.
True enough but the emphasis with the present Ontario MNR draw is certainly in favor of party hunting. Looks like their new system might favor party hunters as well once we sort out the details
Personally, I wouldn't solo hunt moose after seeing what is involved in retrieving the dozen moose that our group has harvested over the last 11 years. Certainly too much work for just myself but I year we were lucky and had one run towards the road and flopped down only a few yards from the truck. That one evens out the score for some of the very nasty locations we've been into to get one out.
The new system shouldn't favour party hunters because the points are accumulated by the individual and not the group. For what it's worth, something like the current system which essentially forces party hunting is a barrier to entry when looking to recruit new hunters.
Dorian Gray
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Yes, points will be accumulated by the individual. What the poster you quoted means by the new system favouring party hunting is that if one ever hope's to hunt moose on a yearly basis, (i.e. more than once or twice in their lifetime, within province and not in fly-in only WMU's) then party hunting is the logical way to go. Otherwise it will likely be at least 10+ years between your individual hunts.
2 guys buy a tag over the counter.
Dorian Gray
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
You're not wrong. The way I'm looking at it is that the new system will benefit everyone from the individual, to the small groups and on up to the larger ones. Everyone will get a fairer shake at pulling a tag than they do right now. Everyone will also be able to plan with a reasonable amount of accuracy as to when and where they can get their tag and plan their hunt accordingly. It's not perfect by any means. The boys in Peterborough get it wrong a lot. But from the sounds of it, it's leaps and bounds ahead of the current system.
But whatever they are doing with that simple system had kept them in moose while our pool a and b with calves for 3 months did nothing for us.
While solo hunts is cool, there is something to be said about getting the thing gutted and back at camp in an hour or 2.
While solo hunts is cool, there is something to be said about getting the thing gutted and back at camp in an hour or 2.
Likely has more to do with climate than their tag system. Moose don't do well in warm weather and Quebec geographically sits farther north than Ontario and the states it butts up against (all of whom have also reduced their tag allotments) The other possibility is that Quebec is just straight up allowing an over harvest, but I give them benefit of the doubt.
Moose Masher
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The population of Quebec is a little more than half that of Ontario.
Could be there are half as many hunters.
Could be there are half as many hunters.
billbmcleod
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- Back very close to Bruce County
I remember when a moose licence was good for any moose you wanted, and a bear thrown in. Then I remember the two tag years that caused havoc in three party groups. And then the present system of draws. There may have been other programs as I didn't hunt moose for a few years when the kids were smaller.
