Ptrd??

[fat tony]

Thanks Missing Something. Here's two pics of Finnish soldiers using the Lahti L39 during the Winter or Continuation War. A shoulder fired 20mm ATR - those Finns must have been tough!

Gunwriters on the web has a great article about a 20mm that was salvaged from a Dewat.

 

[tootall]

I drove out to Wolverine arms to buy a PTRD and ended up coming home with both a PTRD and a PTRS. The PTRS was no problem as it disassembled in half in a few seconds, but it was a chore to fit the PTRD into my little Honda Accord.

I ended up selling them when I got my Boys Anti tank rifle. A lot more design and curves, compared to the rough and basic look of the Russian rifles.

Sten sold his PTRD to me, and it was through him that I first learned of CGN. (We met thru the Can Access to Firearms newspaper).
So, I have owned my gun since right around my start day here (June 2005), and I have yet to fire it, due to no ammo.

I did get a chance to fire a Finnish Lahti L-39 at a full auto shoot in Albany, OR a few years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LibWVifdgtI
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My dad often talked about firing a Boyes ATR during his time in WW2, so I would love to get one. But I'm a cheap prick and as they are bloody expensive, I probably wont.

 

[Klunk]

If anyone can source some ammo I would be eternally grateful

OR...if anyone has ammo and wants to fire it I would be happy to simply observe!!

 

[smellie]

..... and just to think:

that monster had pups......

..... and you can buy them for $169.

I just wonder.......

....if you are nice to them and feed them very well........

........will they grow up to be like their Mom?

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BTW, the .55 Boys round actually put out about 45% MORE power than the .50BMG due to the .562 slug. BMG case is necked too much for optimum performance.

Not that I can afford to shoot either one, mind you!
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[ArtyMan]

The PTRS was no problem as it disassembled in half in a few seconds, but it was a chore to fit the PTRD into my little Honda Accord.

I considered the same thing in regards to my 1998 Toyota Tercel. The 1891s are problem enough for me!

 

[jside86]

..... and just to think:

that monster had pups......

..... and you can buy them for $169.

I just wonder.......

....if you are nice to them and feed them very well........

........will they grow up to be like their Mom?

.....................................................................................................

BTW, the .55 Boys round actually put out about 45% MORE power than the .50BMG due to the .562 slug. BMG case is necked too much for optimum performance.

Not that I can afford to shoot either one, mind you!
.

are you talking about the fact that they look like and SKS??

 

[smellie]

No, I'm talking about the fact that the SKS looks like its Daddy.

Take them both apart and you'll see what I mean.

The "S" in PTRS.... and in SKS..... stands for "Simonov".... and for very good reason.
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[tootall]

And the D stands for Degtyaryov
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Degtyaryov

 

[Claven2]

I eventually sold this one with about 20 unfired rounds that I had left. A chap out west was reloading for these as well for a fee... forget who?

One of my spent rounds (ww2 round I had reloaded then fired) with a 54r empty:

Used to give me a WICKED shove...

 

[cam1936]

There must be surplus out there somewhere. Why cant anyone bring in ammo? Is it an issue of not having a large enough market for the minimum purchase needed?

 

[SCDL]

PTRS bolt above an SKS bolt. Pretty damn similar.

 

[stencollector]

There must be surplus out there somewhere. Why cant anyone bring in ammo? Is it an issue of not having a large enough market for the minimum purchase needed?

Rifles and ammunition of that caliber fall under the category of destructive devices in the US, so export for civilian use is not going to happen. Overseas, most of the 14.5 that exists is for the machine guns, and is either armor piercing, incendiary, or HE incendiary, all of which would be controlled for import. As well, most of that ammunition is a touch more powerful than the ammo that was meant for the PTRD and PTRS, so you likely shouldn't use it anyway.

We seem to have enough trouble just getting .303 these days, which has many consumers here in Canada. I doubt that any importer could make a profit bringing in ammunition for a rare piece like the PTRD. Heck, most guys here in Canada whine about $6 a round 50 cal (when you can even find it at that price). At $50 a round for 14.5, they would sew their wallets shut.

 

[Shrapnel]

There must be surplus out there somewhere. Why cant anyone bring in ammo? Is it an issue of not having a large enough market for the minimum purchase needed?

Actually, while there are tons of availlable ball type ammo in other parts of the world, the good people at NRCan will not approve the ammunition in that caliber for import... I hope they all get fired in time and replaced by other pro firearms canadians...

 

[Kevin M.]

Truth be told I would not be opposed to buying any of those firearms.

 

[tootall]

One of the importers told me a while back that he was offered some 14.5mm ammo for a stunningly low price.
Only problem was that he had to take all 10 or 20 MILLION rounds!

 

[SCDL]

Rifles and ammunition of that caliber fall under the category of destructive devices in the US, so export for civilian use is not going to happen. Overseas, most of the 14.5 that exists is for the machine guns, and is either armor piercing, incendiary, or HE incendiary, all of which would be controlled for import. As well, most of that ammunition is a touch more powerful than the ammo that was meant for the PTRD and PTRS, so you likely shouldn't use it anyway.

We seem to have enough trouble just getting .303 these days, which has many consumers here in Canada. I doubt that any importer could make a profit bringing in ammunition for a rare piece like the PTRD. Heck, most guys here in Canada whine about $6 a round 50 cal (when you can even find it at that price). At $50 a round for 14.5, they would sew their wallets shut.

If they could at least import components...

 

[Kevin M.]

One of the importers told me a while back that he was offered some 14.5mm ammo for a stunningly low price.
Only problem was that he had to take all 10 or 20 MILLION rounds!

We would see quite the proliferation of new builds and rebarreling if that came in.

 

[Claven2]

Like I said, all you need to do is source 10 or 20 empties. They are being reloaded here in Canada, a couple places have the dies, reloading data and new-made projectiles. I had some made for me and they worked great when I still owned the gun

 

[Nyles]

I still have a bunch of the ones you sold me with the gun too.

 

[hacer2]

you know im curious maybe westrifle can answer this one for me there must still be stashes/armories/warehouse with these in em. there must still be some left to import heck even if we cant shoot em makes a real nice novelty piece