Pump action Black rifle...?
- Thread starter tikka7mm-08
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- Richmond, BC
Ok, the title sounds as silly as bringing back the 2 dollar bill, but hear me out.
Today me and a buddy were talking about magazine restrictions and other illogical gun laws that exist in Canada. As the conversation went on i began thinking about some of those guys who converted their m1 carbines into pump action rifles. I thought "why doesn't an arms manufacturer make an AR style rifle with the gas system being replaced with a pump action system?" this way, (up here in canada at least) we could have full sized magazines ship with the rifle, and if it took AR mags we could than have 30 round AR mags... and in turn use them for restricted AR's or other semi autos, similar to how the keltec sub-2k can use Glock mags even though its non restricted. this is just a thought, but is it realistic? especially with "california gun laws" and more states getting restrictive on semi auto's, could we see more "tactical" pump action .223's? And if the logic applies to this as it does with certain lever actions, and shotguns, couldn't we get shorter barrels as well and still be non restricted?
this was just a passing thought, but the more i think about it, the more it almost makes sense giver our current political climate?
any thoughts, comments, or queries would be greatly appreciated
Archangel almost nailed it with their new chassis for the 700 bolt action. I heard that it accepts M14 mags with minor modification but that in inself is pointless. What would have been nice is if the kit came with a magazine that was identical to the M14 magazine, in 10 and 20 round variants. In effect, a 20 round magazine purpose built for this bolt action rifle, that happened to be ideniticle to the M14 magazine. The same could be done for the .223/5.56 round with a 30 round magazine that in appearance is identical to the STANAG magazine, except it was intended and specifically build for a bolt action chassis system.
It's doable, just need to find a company willing to do that for Canadian AR owners. Is there a big enough market for it? Who knows.
yeah Mister Donut gets what i was trying to get at, it could be done without to much tooling costs or R&D but as loki 81 pointed out in a previous post, its all upon RCMP classification, if they decide to be chumps about the whole thing they could forcefully pin the mag to 5 rounds and make the rifle lose all appeal.
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- Richmond, BC
Just do what the folks with the LAR pistol did. They designed a pistol, with a 10 rnd mag that happened to be the exact same specs as the AR mag. Design a mag for a bolt action rifle or at least a chassis kit for a bolt action rifle, that happens to have the exact same specs as the AR mag. Not a bolt action AR, because that will be classified as an AR variant (the LAR AR pistol is irrelevant because it's a pistol and restricted anyway). Lots of chassis systems using AI mags, why not make a chassis that uses AR mags instead? Archangel almost nailed it on the head with their new chassis for the 700 using a mag similar to the M14, but not quite. Haha, it doesn't even have to be a good chassis, but people will buy the mags for sure. Get a couple of engineers here, get it on Kickstarter and watch it work. CGN Law buffs, any input here?
