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Seems like pumps are far more common in shotguns-legendary in fact-but rare in centerfires.Any idea why?Anybody use one-if so what make and model?I would think they would be ideal for a short range deer/black bear brush rifle which seems dominated by lever actions apart from the Remington 7600
 
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ratherbefishin said:
Seems like pumps are far more common in shotguns-legendary in fact-but rare in centerfires.Any idea why?
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Lever actions already had a foothold, it was too much of a out ot the box thinking to use a pump. Look at all them moving parts, it will fall aparet right away!:runaway: They seem to have a few loyal followings here and there.

A Model 14/141 in 35 Rem would be hard to beat, especially a 14R carbine.

Mine is a 25 Cal. I doubt I will be out looking for a bear with it specifically.
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I have a Rem 7615, it's my truck/coyote rifle, deadly for coyotes with 10rd mag and fast follow up shots, 9" twist so I can use the heavier bullets for longer ranges.

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They aren't that rare, remington sold more than a million pumps before they made the switch in the early 80's to the 7600 series, and has sold a quarter million more since then.

I wouldn't call that an uncommon rifle, hell, even the FBI used them, it's just not the mall ninja's internet sweetheart. There are a helluva lot of them on a lot of rec room walls, even if they do get maligned on the interweb.
 
I have an old Rem 760 in 223 with a 3x9 scope and it shoots as well as most of my other varmint rifles...also a much older Rem 14 1/2 pump in 44-40 that is a really good shooter. :)
 
I've been thinking about getting a 7600 carbine in 30-06 as a quick loading, fast cycling camp/truck gun.
 
The Remington 760/7600 rifles are capable of fine accuracy, and are quite common, you just need to know where to look. While on the internet, you will run into all the experts. They can kill a running deer at 500 yards in a crosswind during a blizzard with one shot from their tuned bolt action. Meanwhile in the real world the guys who spend a few weeks in a deer camp in the Fall probably never log onto the net. They are out there quietly killing deer with the pumps, levers and autoloaders and never feel undergunned or feel like they have to shoot at a running buck at 500 yards in a blizzard. ;)

Besides, there's more to life than hunting with bolt guns. :wave:
 
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Seems like pumps are far more common in shotguns-legendary in fact-but rare in centerfires.Any idea why?
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Depending on where you live will determine how many you will see in the field. They are very common in Ont and Sask and do see some action here in the Maritimes.

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Anybody use one-if so what make and model?
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I own a 760 Carbine in .308, a 7600 in 30/06 and another 7600 in 35Whelen. I have owned several others inclucing .308s, 30/06s, a 270, a 35Rem, a 358Win [35Rem rechambered], three other Whelens and a .223.

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I would think they would be ideal for a short range deer/black bear brush rifle
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They are an ideal rifle for more than short range hunting. They are accurate, dependable, priced right, c/w a detach mag, handle well and easy to scope. What's not to like?


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I live in BC-you rarely see pumps or semi's in centerfires--mainly bolt actions and levers,yet they're quite accepted in 22's
 
Hey rather,

I have a 'new' Browning BPR in 30-06 that I really, really like. They stopped making them 5 - 6 years ago, but there were a few leftover at the local gun shop. At the range, I am as accurate with it as I was with my Win M70 in 30-06 that I had previously. They seem to be holding their value incredibly well as I regularly see them on the internet gun exchange sites going for $1000+ for a 15 year old rifle without glass. Here is a pic of mine.

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Although I detest pumps and semis in centerfire ) and rimfire for that matter) I must concede that almost all the pump action Remingtons i have worked on and hand loaded ammo for were very accurate for hunting rifles.
Wouldn't own either, but of the two types, the pump is far and away the lest hassle to use and for being trouble free IMO.
But then, I'm not too crazy about anything with a bolt either - unless it's a target rifle!:D
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pump action shot guns are legendary in terms of simplicity and reliability-the name ''remington'' is associated with ''870''but I can't help but wonder how much media has to do with influencing people to choose one action or caliber over another.

I remember asking my dad about 50 years ago if a certain rifle would kill a deer-and my dad said ''yes-if you hold it straight''
 
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I've got a Savage 170 in 35 Rem. Makes a great brush buster, haven't had a complaint with it yet except that it kicks the hell outta my shoulder when using the Hornady Evolution 200 gr stuff.

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Well the 870 has just recieved a reputation for being a great gun. The price doesn't hurt things either. I've owned several pump shotguns, 2 were Remingtons, and I still own 1. They were far and away a better feeling gun, with no issues to write home about and they have always just worked. (The only exception was this past Fall, it didn't like the Federal black cloud ammo and the slide would kind of get stuck when trying to eject it.) I don't think the media has a big role in what kind of gun someone buys as far as brand. I mean lets face it, if you see a tv show or movie, it's almost always a military style rifle their playing with. Although I do recall an episode of Miami Vice where a bad guy sniper uncased a 742 Remington, attached a scope with weaver rings, 'adjusted' the scope adjustment caps, :)D) and killed somebody. I think most people select their weapon of choice based on a few things. First would be what their Dad/Uncle/Grandfather shot. If it was good enough for them... Then there are the guys who just like the look of a certain gun. Then you have the guys who buy what they are told to buy. Come to this site as a newbie and ask what should he get, the answer will almost always be a bolt action rifle of some flavour. That's why they are so popular. I don't think they are really better for hunting, but they have become the most popular simply by word of mouth. I personally prefer lever action rifles myself, but that's probably because of too many Western's growing up. And that's probably the same reason new guys to shooting like the military style rifles. The media won't cause someone to choose a brand, but it can help choose a style. And while any rifle will kill a deer, it's simply a matter of personal choice. And I think selecting the right rifle shouldn't be left to others to decide for you, that is somthing you really need to decide on your own. I think a rifle shouldn't be seen as merely a tool, rather an extension of who you are. And if a pump does that for you, go kill a deer.
 
i have a 760 in 270 that was passed down to me from my grandfather. just put a scope on it and haven;t even found the time to site it in yet.. i love this gun.. seems too be the funnest thing to shoot when we were out this year i think my buddies just like cycling rounds through it as fast as they can with open sites.
 
I have a Rem model 76 pump (plain version of 7600 without the checkering) in .30-06 and its a hell of an accurate rifle. It is just as free floated as any bolt rifle, and a great carry gun. MY only problem with it is in the actual ergonomics of the gun. My natural position for placing my front support hand is somewhat close to my body (to take advantage of placing my elbow into my stomach for support) and I find that this places my hand into the mag area behind the pump. Not too comfortable to hold for any amount of time. I'd suggest to hold one for fit before buying, because if it fits your body well, you wont be disappointed, BUT if you are like the 1% of shooters that hold a rifle like me, it may cause you trouble. Try one on and see for yourself.
 
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