Isn't there more maintenance to an auto, like cleaning out the piston or rings or whatever those things are. Besides, how much faster does a person have to get off that second and third shot. Let the birds get a little bit closer, and with a pump your gun will be empty before you know it. But it is whatever you feel more comfortable with. Like someone else said before, if your buddies are going to make fun of you because you shoot a pump, tell them "hey, you guys come up with the price differance, and I will shoot an auto any day"
Pump or Auto?
- Thread starter Varmit
- Start date
- Location
- Alberta land of many guns
BIGREDD said:
Autos do in fact weigh more than pump guns, its simple deductive reasoning. More parts= more weight.
Remington 870 wingmaster 26" bbl 7 lbs
Remington 11-87 Sportsman 26" bbl 8.125 lbs.
The lightest semi that Remington makes is still 1/2 pound heavier than its pump action counter-part.
Pump action is still the choice of champions when it comes to hard use, minimum cost and minimum maintenence. Not to mention the increased mag capacity over a semi, provided you shoot other disciplines other than hunting. The pump gun feeds all loads, light or heavy. No need to choice feed it for reliability.
CF
semi or pump
Shot a pump for 20 years then switched to a browning Gold hunter semi auto,it feeds light trap loads to 31/2 inch no problem ,a bit heavier but when my hands got really cold and wet I started to double shuffle with the old pump, must be the gray in my eyes
...
Shot a pump for 20 years then switched to a browning Gold hunter semi auto,it feeds light trap loads to 31/2 inch no problem ,a bit heavier but when my hands got really cold and wet I started to double shuffle with the old pump, must be the gray in my eyes
...
- Location
- Alberta land of many guns
Bobbyjack,
Can't say that I have. Semi's are fun just far too high maintenence when compared to a pump.
CF
Can't say that I have. Semi's are fun just far too high maintenence when compared to a pump.
CF
thanks guys, think I'll get the wingmaster 12 ga pump in 26" barrel. I'd be using it as an all around gun for ducks, geese, grouse, pheasant etc but the majority of my hunting will be for upland birds.
Really wanted an O/U but I didn't like the cheap ones and my wife thinks 2 grand is a bit too much with kids in college.
Really wanted an O/U but I didn't like the cheap ones and my wife thinks 2 grand is a bit too much with kids in college.
beretta boy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Orillia, Ontario
Owned many of both types ... semi's do require a little more preventative maintenance - but it's not onerous.
No matter which you prefer - or eventually end up buying, gun fit is the most important criteria, followed by balance - and thankfully, either type of shotgun can be changed around without too much difficulty. Every shotgun I've owned in the past twenty years or so gets modified in terms of cast off, drop, L.O.P. and/or pitch ... and sometimes all ! I prefer my O/U's and SxS's to balance through the hinge pin, pumps & semis through the extractor hole.
No matter which you choose, spend some time with a good shotgunner knowledgeable about fit & balance, make the adjustments required for YOU
(what fits me is unimportant ... it's what fits you ! ) .... and then take the time to practice ... a lot ... you'll enjoy the gun & the sport much more with a shotgun that fits and handles well.
No matter which you prefer - or eventually end up buying, gun fit is the most important criteria, followed by balance - and thankfully, either type of shotgun can be changed around without too much difficulty. Every shotgun I've owned in the past twenty years or so gets modified in terms of cast off, drop, L.O.P. and/or pitch ... and sometimes all ! I prefer my O/U's and SxS's to balance through the hinge pin, pumps & semis through the extractor hole.
No matter which you choose, spend some time with a good shotgunner knowledgeable about fit & balance, make the adjustments required for YOU
(what fits me is unimportant ... it's what fits you ! ) .... and then take the time to practice ... a lot ... you'll enjoy the gun & the sport much more with a shotgun that fits and handles well.
Shoot one of your buddies auto and see how you like. But go with the gun you hit what you shoot at.
When I was a kid I started with Win mod 50 auto; it was okay I still have it. But when I grew a little bigger and saved enough money I bought a used model 12. Loved it, still do; got 9 of them now. The one that works best for me has a factory duck bill vent rib and a high comb m/c stock. When I point that sucker and look down the barrel with both eyes open it's like an extension of my finger.
My advice is for you to try them all and go with the one YOU like the best. Who gives a hoot what your buddies and that brand new guide laugh at.
When I was a kid I started with Win mod 50 auto; it was okay I still have it. But when I grew a little bigger and saved enough money I bought a used model 12. Loved it, still do; got 9 of them now. The one that works best for me has a factory duck bill vent rib and a high comb m/c stock. When I point that sucker and look down the barrel with both eyes open it's like an extension of my finger.
My advice is for you to try them all and go with the one YOU like the best. Who gives a hoot what your buddies and that brand new guide laugh at.
- Location
- north vancouver
Varmit said:
- Location
- north vancouver
Why do you need 8 roundssillymike said:Since most of my shotgunning time is spent plinking... I like the pump better...
Why? I can load 8 rds instead of 5
If you cannot hit the Goose with 1 to 3 shots, chambering 5 or 8 shells is not going to help you
Pump or semi auto makes no difference.
Perhaps you may be served better by using a semi automatic machine gun
haggisbasher said:Why do you need 8 rounds
If you cannot hit the Goose with 1 to 3 shots, chambering 5 or 8 shells is not going to help you
Pump or semi auto makes no difference.
Perhaps you may be served better by using a semi automatic machine gun
Well if you read his post it says that he is going to be plinking most of the time rather then hunting. That way he doesn't have to load as often while shooting at targets...or what have you
cannonfodder said:
Remington 870 SuperMag 26" bbl 7 1/4 lbs
Benelli SBEII Comfortech 26" bbl 7.1 lbs
The Franchis and the Berettas are even lighter... Remington does not make the only semi... and they are far from average weight for a semi. Not all semis are gas operated... and the recoil semis have less parts than pumpguns... less parts means less weight.
Last edited:
sillymike
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
haggisbasher said:Why do you need 8 rounds
If you cannot hit the Goose with 1 to 3 shots, chambering 5 or 8 shells is not going to help you
Pump or semi auto makes no difference.
Perhaps you may be served better by using a semi automatic machine gun
As I said earlier in my post, I do not care much for hunting anymore (unless it's zombies)... and when it comes to zombies, you can never have too many rounds
If I could afford to buy and feed a semi-automatic machine gun... beleive me, I would get one
- Location
- Thunder Bay ON Canada
You may have overlooked a Cardinal Rule......any question worth asking has more than two options.
What about one of those norinco lever actions? I think you'd get more ooh's and aah's than snickers...even from those guys who brung those fancy auto's.
What about one of those norinco lever actions? I think you'd get more ooh's and aah's than snickers...even from those guys who brung those fancy auto's.
Ahhnold used a cutdown Winchester 1887 lever shotgun in Terminator 2.Trigun said:Hate to sat that, all Terminator movies use pump shorties. That said pump looks cool. Your freinds may have something wrong in their head
Trigun
http://www.wolfarmouries.co.uk/airsoft/bb/product.asp?page=product&id=MSHT2SHOT
I prefer the 870s over the 11-87s for alot of reasons, mainly reliability, price, & weight.
But one thing not yet mentioned is that there are far more aftermarket thingys out there for 870s than the 11-87 making them alot more versatile.
I have for my 870 a 26" bbl, a 20" shorty, and a 23" fully rifled bbl and while you can get extra bbls for 11-87s they are more expensive and harder to find on the used market.
sc
But one thing not yet mentioned is that there are far more aftermarket thingys out there for 870s than the 11-87 making them alot more versatile.
I have for my 870 a 26" bbl, a 20" shorty, and a 23" fully rifled bbl and while you can get extra bbls for 11-87s they are more expensive and harder to find on the used market.
sc
