Pump vs semi

Brent33

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Hello what are your thoughts on the reliability of pump vs semi auto shotguns. Can you make any semi auto suggestions as I've always been an 870 guy

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M4, 1301.

Run them right and they are very reliable.

If you have the $crilla get an M4, you will not be disappointed.
 
The B auto all seem to work very well . In our group of 7-8, Benelli then Beretta followed by Browning. These are used heavy and at least one guy does not clean for the 6 weeks. His Benelli runs smooth. Although I run Benelli’s my old Baikal Rem works flawlessly too. If hunting other than waterfowl I might go with a lighter gun.
 
A quality semi auto, properly maintained, will be extremely reliable. The Winchester SX-3/4, Browning Maxus,Silver, Beretta A300/400, and the Benelli SBE 2/3 are all excellent choices for hunting, for clays, the gas operated guns are more reliable with light loads, and produce less felt recoil.
 
I also would say the Winchester SX3/4 and Browning gas shotguns are just as reliable or maybe even more reliable than a pump. I would rather shoot the semi auto these days.
 
A good semi takes out a lot of user error of a pump gun. A manual pump gun can't shoot any load that fits whereas some semi's have issues with the extremes of loads whether heavy or light.
My 1301 comp cycles everything from 3/4oz to 2oz loads and hasn't failed me yet. A good pump is as reliable as the shooter
 
I used a rem 870 super mag (3-1/2 chamber) for waterfowl and turkey hunting for years. My hunting partner bought a browning maxus I tried it and bough the maxus soon after its lighter far less recoil and faster follow up shots tried several brands of shells through it and never a jam

go shoulder several brands/models and see what comes up most naturally. the gun needs to fit you
 
I'm not so sure you can make such a blanket statement. It depends on the make/model. Just like semis, some pumps are reliable and some are not.
 
Very broadly speaking a pump is gonna be more reliable, they have fewer moving parts and don't rely on the ammo to cycle the action. If you want to spend the least amount of money, a pump action from a reputable name is hard to beat - I'm a Mossberg fan personally, but there are other good brands too.

That said, my $300 Turkish semi auto (asena zr7) has been very reliable for me. Would it stand up to a 10k round torture test? Probably not, but it cycles target loads and steel loads, and has killed a bunch of grouse and ducks, which is all I could really want from it.

I'm also not suggesting every $300 Turkish semi is this reliable. Maybe I just got lucky, maybe this particular model is a good one, I'm not sure, my point is you don't HAVE to buy a Benelli or Beretta to get a decently reliable semi. If you've got the budget then you're going to have far less chances of trouble with brand name vs cheap Turkish though.
 
Very broadly speaking a pump is gonna be more reliable, they have fewer moving parts and don't rely on the ammo to cycle the action. If you want to spend the least amount of money, a pump action from a reputable name is hard to beat - I'm a Mossberg fan personally, but there are other good brands too.

That said, my $300 Turkish semi auto (asena zr7) has been very reliable for me. Would it stand up to a 10k round torture test? Probably not, but it cycles target loads and steel loads, and has killed a bunch of grouse and ducks, which is all I could really want from it.

I'm also not suggesting every $300 Turkish semi is this reliable. Maybe I just got lucky, maybe this particular model is a good one, I'm not sure, my point is you don't HAVE to buy a Benelli or Beretta to get a decently reliable semi. If you've got the budget then you're going to have far less chances of trouble with brand name vs cheap Turkish though.

From what I have seen, the cheap Turkish semi autos biggest issue is consistency, if you pick 5 of the same make/model two might function perfectly, two may be inconsistent, and one may not function at all. And any quality semi auto should last 20k rounds
 
I put over 40000 ends thru an asena zr7rc over a couple years. It was mainly used for farm shoots where 5 to 10 ppl shared it. It broke 2 bolt locks and needed new action springs twice. The forend cracked when it slipped thru a case that was ripped and slid down the stairs. Corwin arms supplied parts and shipped the same day I sent him a picture of the needed parts. No questions asked. Several of my friends are still shooting theirs without issue. I'd say it passed my standards. It was way more reliable than any of my rem 1100s
 
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