Purchasing 9mm - what do you shoot and why?

Walther PPX. Good price point for the range kit. There was a couple on the ee. Quality handgun with a almost perfect trigger. Not something you will get bored of.
 
I to was new to restricted until about 8months ago. My first love was a CZ shadow 11 in 9 mm. Of course I knew nothing about shooting hand guns so looked at a few utube vids on grip and stance and off I went to my local range.
Well I have to say I have seen the light! My first week of ownership saw over a thousand rounds through the CZ.
More than twice what I have shot through my long guns in all of the time I’ve owned them.
So much fun!
So after that first week I signed up for a beginners hand gun course and learned better grip and stance and now have more than 4000 rounds through that gun and still loving it, super accurate and a very nice trigger.
Now at my handgun course my instructor was shooting a S&W pro 1911 in 9mm and he let me have a go with it, Wow what a beauty! The trigger pull on that gun was amazing! So when I noticed one come up on the EE here I picked it up and now have around 3000 rounds through it. Beautiful, accurate and amazing trigger.
I do have one problem with the 1911 though and don’t know if this is typical of them all.
I have a hard time reaching the mag release without shifting my grip and I find this kind of annoying and I don’t have small hands(I wear extra lg gloves)
So my advice would be to hit a local gun shop and try some on for size, the fit in your hand is very important and the only way to know is to handle them. Also look at some tutorials on line so when you go to the shop you actually know how to handle a hand gun if you have no idea of proper grip trying them out won’t do much good.

Extended mag releases are available: https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf...mAhXvwVkKHTkACUEQsAR6BAgJEAE&biw=1680&bih=907
 
After watching and reading many reviews i just got my first restricted. I went with CZ shadow 2 and i dont think i could've done any better. I love it.

For 9mm I started with a Nork NZ85 figuring if I liked it, I would upgrade to a CZ. Problem is it's too good a shooter to get rid of. The only modification I did to it was to install a set of CZ over-molded rubber grips on it. It had a good double and single action trigger out of the box, but after 3,000 (might be closer to 5,000) rounds, the trigger is amazing (I let everyone try it, and they all say the same thing; accurate and great trigger); it looks nice too.

Like @mcwalther says; just like cheating, but it's not. But it's not a "real" CZ. LOL.
 
For 9mm I started with a Nork NZ85 figuring if I liked it, I would upgrade to a CZ. Problem is it's too good a shooter to get rid of. The only modification I did to it was to install a set of CZ over-molded rubber grips on it. It had a good double and single action trigger out of the box, but after 3,000 (might be closer to 5,000) rounds, the trigger is amazing (I let everyone try it, and they all say the same thing; accurate and great trigger); it looks nice too.

Like @mcwalther says; just like cheating, but it's not. But it's not a "real" CZ. LOL.

I just got hold of a barely used NZ85B. I've ordered the Hogue grips for it too. Now I just have to get out to the range and try it :)
 
I to was new to restricted until about 8months ago. My first love was a CZ shadow 11 in 9 mm. Of course I knew nothing about shooting hand guns so looked at a few utube vids on grip and stance and off I went to my local range.
Well I have to say I have seen the light! My first week of ownership saw over a thousand rounds through the CZ.
More than twice what I have shot through my long guns in all of the time I’ve owned them.
So much fun!
So after that first week I signed up for a beginners hand gun course and learned better grip and stance and now have more than 4000 rounds through that gun and still loving it, super accurate and a very nice trigger.
Now at my handgun course my instructor was shooting a S&W pro 1911 in 9mm and he let me have a go with it, Wow what a beauty! The trigger pull on that gun was amazing! So when I noticed one come up on the EE here I picked it up and now have around 3000 rounds through it. Beautiful, accurate and amazing trigger.
I do have one problem with the 1911 though and don’t know if this is typical of them all.
I have a hard time reaching the mag release without shifting my grip and I find this kind of annoying and I don’t have small hands(I wear extra lg gloves)
So my advice would be to hit a local gun shop and try some on for size, the fit in your hand is very important and the only way to know is to handle them. Also look at some tutorials on line so when you go to the shop you actually know how to handle a hand gun if you have no idea of proper grip trying them out won’t do much good.

I have small hands so I know whereof you speak. There two solutions ....

- punch the mag release with your left thumb (assuming you are right handed)

- buy a right side mag release (operated by your trigger finger)

I bought one for my lefty wife's 1911 and tried it myself. I liked it so much I put one on one of my 1911s.

I may equip ALL my 1911s with one.

I changed over the mag release on my wife's CZ Shadow. A PITA to do, but she loves it.
 
I just got hold of a barely used NZ85B. I've ordered the Hogue grips for it too. Now I just have to get out to the range and try it :)
Bring it by one Wed. I’ll bring some springs with me. See if anything needs changing. :)
 
I just got hold of a barely used NZ85B. I've ordered the Hogue grips for it too. Now I just have to get out to the range and try it :)

Cool! You will like it!! Shoot a few hundred rounds through it to get used to it, then you may have to adjust the windage a bit. The dove tails are really tight, and I think they put some sort of "lock-tite" on them. To get the sight to move, you will need a brass punch and an 8 or 12 oz hammer. Once it moves, it will move more easily. Mine shoots to point of aim now; holding on the X. You may find the Hogue grips a bit big; post an add in the EE for CZ 75 take offs (the factory overmoulded ones), the won't cost you much, and they are really comfortable. The screw holes in the CZ grips will need to be drilled slighty larger for the Nork screws to fit. CZ grips. Aftermarket CZ75 mags fit perfect.

Happy shooting!
 
I shoot a CZ SP01... I had many Glocks, Sigs ( real, chinese clones ) Alot of 1911s, HKs, Grand Power, Browning Hi Powers. I had a CZ before, but a CZ 97B and it was bulky.

CZ with thin grips, fitted my hand perfect. The weight is great, the trigger is great. If I knew about how good they would. I probably wouldn't spent over 10,000 on different pistols.
 
I do have one problem with the 1911 though and don’t know if this is typical of them all.
I have a hard time reaching the mag release without shifting my grip and I find this kind of annoying and I don’t have small hands(I wear extra lg gloves)
So my advice would be to hit a local gun shop and try some on for size, the fit in your hand is very important and the only way to know is to handle them. Also look at some tutorials on line so when you go to the shop you actually know how to handle a hand gun if you have no idea of proper grip trying them out won’t do much good.

I've never had, nor do I want, a pistol that I could operate the mag catch on without adjusting my grip. Once you've done it 10,000 or so times, you don't notice it, it just happens. It doesn't affect accuracy, or for that matter speed. If the mag release is right under your thumb without changing your grip, the mechanics of the situation mean that your grip is 99% of the time, either too small for you to shoot properly, or your hand positioning is wrong. An extended mag release doesn't make the mag release easier to hit unless it's a paddle, the longer releases that are more common just make the release more positive. While you can pick up some stuff from videos, they are not a substitute for professional instruction - this is one of those cases where someone should look at how you're holding the pistol. If you can nail the release without even a slight change of grip, you're too low on the grip and need to get your hand higher.

ETA - the gun and your hands are moving in a mag change anyway, the extra movement is really negligible.
 
Cool! You will like it!! Shoot a few hundred rounds through it to get used to it, then you may have to adjust the windage a bit. The dove tails are really tight, and I think they put some sort of "lock-tite" on them. To get the sight to move, you will need a brass punch and an 8 or 12 oz hammer. Once it moves, it will move more easily. Mine shoots to point of aim now; holding on the X. You may find the Hogue grips a bit big; post an add in the EE for CZ 75 take offs (the factory overmoulded ones), the won't cost you much, and they are really comfortable. The screw holes in the CZ grips will need to be drilled slighty larger for the Nork screws to fit. CZ grips. Aftermarket CZ75 mags fit perfect.

Happy shooting!

Yup. the Hogue grips may end up being too much but I put a set on an NP58 and really like them and they were cheap on Amazon so I'll try it. My hands are larger so hopefully it will be ok. Otherwise I'll look for the thiner CZ ones.
 
Yup. the Hogue grips may end up being too much but I put a set on an NP58 and really like them and they were cheap on Amazon so I'll try it. My hands are larger so hopefully it will be ok. Otherwise I'll look for the thiner CZ ones.

If you can handle a CZ, you will likely change your mind. I had an NP58, and put Uncle Mikes overmolded grips on it; they were still a little big. Nice pistol, but I had lots of feeding issues with it with all but RNFP bullets. I sold it and got a Jericho .40; never looked back.
 
I've only tried Blazer Brass .40 in my NP58 and so far it hasn't had any problems feeding etc. Only fired about 150 rounds through it so far.

If you can handle a CZ, you will likely change your mind. I had an NP58, and put Uncle Mikes overmolded grips on it; they were still a little big. Nice pistol, but I had lots of feeding issues with it with all but RNFP bullets. I sold it and got a Jericho .40; never looked back.
 
I've only tried Blazer Brass .40 in my NP58 and so far it hasn't had any problems feeding etc. Only fired about 150 rounds through it so far.

I shoot reloads only; the only bullet shape that fed reliably in the NP58 was Campro 180 gr. TC FCP. I tried various weights and shapes. The absolute worst was the X-Metal 200 gr supercoat round nose, flat point. I had also tried some of their super coat bullets in 9mm and .45 acp; with all of them, their sizes varied more than .007 within a batch, the coating had a tendency to slip when being seated, and roll on the case.

I keep one on my desk to remind me: Never again! LOL.

My Jericho eats everything, but did choke on a couple of those supercoat bullets out of the ones I had left.
 
Finally took the Norinco NZ85B to the range yesterday. Big shoutout to Jimbo14 for swapping the recoil spring and main spring out for slightly lighter ones and the additional coaching. The trigger feels great and I was shooting pretty consistent 2 inch groups at 5 yards (with the odd outlier). This one is a keeper and well worth the money. It's a huge improvement over the Girsan MC28 I had.
 
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