Quad guys and survey tape - what's the deal?

Suka

Suka

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Just back from two weeks in the boreal. Every year I see quad guys tearing around making noise, stopping only to mark every third tree(or so it seems) with friggin' survey tape.

What's the deal - your quad come with a case of survey tape and part of the deal is you have to cover the entire forest with it? No one ever teach you to use a compass? Can't find north without one? Scared of being out of the city? Don't know where N is?

Do me a favor. If you MUST tie tape to a tree every time you stop, you also have time to stop on the way out and untie it. You carried it in, carry it out.

Oh, and please stop asking everyone hunting on foot where the animals are. Yes we know, but we're sure as hell not going to tell you. If I had a dime for every quad hunter (native and non) that asked me this year I'd have over a toonie. :rolleyes:

By the way, if you got off your quad and walked your hunts might end looking more like this:
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Rant over. Thanks, I needed that.

As I side note: got a mule doe on a trail cam in 542. Whoodathunkit? Turns out srd isn't just selling tags to sell tags. :p

Side note 2: good trip. Called in a wolf pack, hunt ruined by native who started blasting away from a distance. Guy couldn't likely hit dirt if his rifle was pointing down but managed to screw up that hunt.
Called in a dandy black boar but couldn't close the deal. I think he winded us. Deer hunting was very good. Far as I know we're the only ones with meat in the freezer, but then we're the only ones who were hunting on foot. :cool:

Footnotes:
1. Why yes, that IS a CZ, and it performed admirably with suitable hunting loads.
2. Why yes, that is the pack I bought from you here on gunnutz for my wife. It's GREAT! I'm jealous! (With son there, wife got a bye.) :)
 
Surveyors marking pipelines, well sites, seismic lines etc...
It's more than likely not because they're lost and trying to find their way home.
If they carried their tape away from the bush then wildlife biologists like myself wouldn't be able to go survey the areas properly if boundaries, wetlands, water courses, etc.. aren't marked or flagged. It gets taken down when the trees are harvested and pipelines/wellsites can go in the ground and keep the money, oil, and gas flowing through the province.
 
What's with these tree hugger, granola munchers whining about marking trails, and using quads in the bush? They use these map things and compasses, instead of joining the rest of the world in 2012......:rolleyes:

It's called technology!

Did you shoot that deer with a flint lock muzzle loader?

If not then I'm sure there is some old timer out there thinking similar thoughts about you.
 
Naw, not surveryers, city quad hunters. They're easy to spot.

A few yrs ago wife and I were hunting an area where motorized transport would be a boon to get us in a few miles so we could start hunting, so we bought a couple quads.
While they fulfilled that role well we found that quite frankly the vast majority of the area's we wanted to hunt could simply not be accessed by a quad. If you look closely you'll see me fishing a beaver pond that's likely never seen a hook before. A quad won't get you here and that's why I don't own one.
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Plus, we found them noisy, and they stunk, so we sold them. (We didn't need survey tape to find our way home though. :) )

My problem isn't with guys using quads for transportation, or even if they want to blast up and down trails and call it hunting. My problem is with the massive amount of survey tape some seem to be enamoured with.

You want to see what I mean go to the house river fire area in 512. On some trail corners you can't see the bush for the tape. Show runs very weekend from now till Nov. 30th. :nest:

We also packed out enough other peoples garbage to fill a black garbage bag plus another in the spot we camped, but that's another rant we're all familiar with.
 
mlehtovaara said:
What's with these tree hugger, granola munchers whining about marking trails, and using quads in the bush? They use these map things and compasses, instead of joining the rest of the world in 2012......:rolleyes:

It's called technology!
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How is that technology? :confused: Want technology, use a frggin GPS. No trail markers needed, just follow your track back.
 
2tall2 said:
How is that technology? :confused: Want technology, use a frggin GPS. No trail markers needed, just follow your track back.
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GPS in for the first time, and mark the trail, but once the trail is cut, and beaten down neither are necessary.

Regardless it's a hell of a lot easier following trail markers than a GPS when moving at any speed through the bush.

Me personally I keep the quads on the trails, and when I get where I want to go I hike into the bush. There is enough of both around my area, so I can see both sides, but the quad allows me to cover a lot more ground.
 
congrats on the successful (partially) hunt. A couple days in the bush beats time on the job no matter what.

I'm interested in your bear calling experience. I can't seem to find a great deal of info about calling bears. Predator or sow call? any tips? Thanks a bunch.
 
Thanks bill.
I took two calls, a fawn in distress, and one that claims to be a jackrabbit distress call. The jackrabbit one is not quite as loud or, "squawky" as the fawn, but otherwise not really much different.

I'm no expert on calling bear. I'd had this one on trailcam the night before and he came in within a couple minutes of calling, but with the thick bush we just never had a shot before he lost interest or figured out the game.
The wolves came running, lead by the pups. (About the size of an average dog) Once they got within maybe 80yds the big one's held up. They definitely didn't wind us or (I think) see us, but they were cautious. We were trying to entice them closer when the other fella started blasting and they changed addresses.

I've called in coyotes locally here from at least a mile away, as well as mule does. The only advice I can offer is it seems to be easy to get predators attention, getting them in a position where you can close the deal is the part I haven't got figured yet. Maybe a mouse squeaker or something? Maybe an enticing scent? In any case, like deer grunts if you can nail down a few whens/wheres, where you Know what the response will be, it's well worth taking the time to learn, IMO.
Best of luck and watch your back if calling alone.
 
The bush in my part of the country is taped up so much it looks like someone's decorating a christmas tree. It is a little of all, trekkers, minnow trappers, geologists, people afraid of getting lost. I have noticed that it seems very few are placed by legitimate persons like prospectors, foresters and surveyors. I admit I make the odd blaze in standing deadwood but I have never needed a ribbon trail to navigate in the woods.

Darryl
 
What pisses me off is when in a stand over an active bear bait some guy on a quad pulls up and parks between me and my bait. Then wants to argue about being able to park where he wants to take a nap. The other guy that pulled the same stunt was a lil more apologetic when he noticed my rifle
 
I'm with you Suka.

Here in NL it's illegal to use a quad on the barrens and bog unless it's on an approved trail or you are recovering a downed big game animal. Nothing is worse than walking all day to get to the good hunting spots and then see some idiot on a quad pull in front of you where it's completely illegal to do so. It takes years for the bog and barrens to grow back to a natural state after being destroyed by quads.
 
looks like a good hunt. Congrats!

I am fortunate to own a quad - I love it for ice fishing and hunting, but people have to use em responsibly. I could not get to my moose camp without a quad - unless I flew in. About 30 kms through trail. Hunting is done the old fashion way though once we get there.
 
I hunt on foot and generally only start the Rokon to bring game out, where I hunt there are no ribbons. The ridges run in all directions, and it is very easy to be 2 hours longer walking back than it was walking in if you get turned around. I carry a roll of ribbon especially if I do get a moose to mark a trail to the kill that I can ride. I take them down when finished as I do not want the routes to my favorite spots flagged. I consider ribbon mandatory in my backpack. Hanging a ribbon next to where I shoot from helps when looking for a downed animal in the brush also.
 
I own a quad, and rarely use us it. For the most part I won't use it on property that I haven't asked permission to do so, and due to the total lake of respect of most (not all) atv operators, most property owners will send you packing if you wanted to atv on their property. It is totally understandable when every piece of property you go for a walk on, hunt on, fish on it tore to shreds from irresponsible atv operators. Here in ontario, conservation lands, forestry lands are almost all posted "no motorized vehicles", but you are allowed to hunt, fish, hike, etc. Yet every one you walk in on is torn up, rutted up by these #### heads. Gate them up, lock them up, build fences, it doesn't matter, a winch or horsepower just rips out gate posts, busts locks, etc and in they go. It will only be a matter of time, that these public lands will be closed to all because of idiots on atv's.
Nothing worst then slipping in silently on foot to a private hunting location, sitting for hours waiting for the golden time before dark just to have jackasses come tearing through on atv's 1/2 hour before sunset, on property they aren't allowed to be on.
Like I said, I have an atv, I use it on my own property, to work with or retrieve game. So I'm not against atv's, what I do hate is the irresponsibility and lack of respect of a majority of atv operators.
 
It is a problem and the last thing I want is more gov. regulation. Even though we are in a relatively remote area the 'mud boggers' or whatever are not happy until a trail is a rutted out mess. You find a route around the water filled ruts and they bog that out next. Very frustrating. I use my ATV on a daily basis and it opens up a lot of new country for me. A request for the mud boggers: Play in one of the many swamps around here and leave the trails alone. The earth muffins have a lot of pull around here and are constantly trying to restrict everything they are not interested in. Irresponsible ATV'ing gives them plenty of ammo. Lots of tape around here too but it is mostly timber cruisers etc.
 
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