Quality difference Express vs Wingmaster vs Police?

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OK 870 guru's, aside from the metal finish, what real difference is there between the different 870???
 
870P has stronger springs and a metal trigger gard. The synthetic stock is also tougher. It'a made by speedfeed. Basically, they are all the same, except the things mentionned above. Like you say, the finishes are differents. Also, the 870P was never equipped with the f...ing ''j-lock''.
 
A new Wingmaster vs a new Express.

Metal finish...blued vs sand or beadblasted.

Wood.....walnut vs birch.

Wood finish....high gloss/satin vs stained.

Barrel.......overall diameter.

Sights......high post front ivory/centre bead vs. metal bead, front only

Trigger mech.....no plastic or less in the WM.

Machining......WM much smoother.

Wingmaster - metal edges are radiused/softened, not on Express

Wingmaster - receiver top has milled lines, flattened area only on Express



WM - 3 chokes.........Express - 1 choke

Price.......$650 vs $375 approx.
 
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IntelGDR691 said:
870P has stronger springs and a metal trigger gard. The synthetic stock is also tougher. It'a made by speedfeed. Basically, they are all the same, except the things mentionned above. Like you say, the finishes are differents. Also, the 870P was never equipped with the f...ing ''j-lock''.

I just had to replace the trigger group on my B-I-L's express after he tried to kick the trigger lock off, breaking the trigger guard in the process. Funny thing is it had the j-lock so he didn't need the damn thing.

Good part is I've got spare parts for my Norinco trigger group now.
 
Another model is the "Special Purpose", which is the same a Wingmaster only with parkerized metal and synthetic stock.







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Are you sure that the SP carries parkerized finished??? I think it is only the Police model that has parkerized finish.... the other one are either glossy blued or the cheap matte blue (may look like parkerizing but...goof from far, but far from good...)
 
IntelGDR691 said:
Are you sure that the SP carries parkerized finished???
Here's an SP I had lying around .................. :)

Note: The bbl is from another SG and is bead blasted, not parked.

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From AR15.com:



From the Vang Comp web site:

What is the difference between a Remington Express and a Police Magnum?"

The Remington Police Magnum shotgun is built heavier to withstand the
abuse and pounding that police departments inflict on their gear. It has a
metal trigger assembly versus the Express's plastic assembly. The Police
Magnum also has heavier springs (7 lb. sear disconnect spring versus's the
Express's 5 lb. disconnect spring). The Police Magnum has a 22 inch
magazine spring versus a 16 inch magazine spring in the Express.
The Police gun comes with a heavier lifter spring. Each Police Magnum
comes with front and rear sling swivel studs. These are just some of the
differences in the two guns. Remember, you get exactly what you pay for.
Both models function the same and digest the same ammo, so if you are
inclined to inflict this type of punishment on your guns then consider a
Police Magnum. Otherwise the Express model will serve you very well.

From the Remington web site:

What are the differences between the M-870 Police and the M-870 Express HD?
Question
Can you tell me the main differences between the 870 Express and the 870
Police Model (assume that the 870P is one with a synthetic stock and front
bead sight). Are the 870Express and 870P receivers different at all, that
is, other than the differences of inscription ("870 Police Magnum" or "870
Express Magnum")?
Answer
Structurally the two receivers are identical. The only difference will be that the Police model will have a more durable finish. The magazine tubes will be slightly different. The Model 870 Express will have two indents in the magazine tube to accommodate the new style plastic magazine spring retainer. However, this prevents the Express model from accepting a magazine tube extension without alteration to the tube.

Other differences will be that the Police model includes sling swivel studs, a shorter fore-end, heavier shell latches, a heavier sear spring and a heavier magazine spring.
 
just a side note too... the dimples are located under where the magazaine cap screws on, so even if you drill them they are covered up by the magazine cap....

other then that I noticed on the inside of my express model was VERY VERY rough when compared to my Marine Magnum.... finish on the insdie was cheaped out.
 
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