Quality of Remington rifles?
- Thread starter cdncowboy
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Elker, give it a break.... not one single person on this site believes you have any idea what you are talking (writing) about.
If you don't like remington 700's fine but you can't actually expect normally intelligent people (that have owned 100's of 700's) to believe your dribble.
If you don't like remington 700's fine but you can't actually expect normally intelligent people (that have owned 100's of 700's) to believe your dribble.
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- Southern Vancouver Island
Good Lord.... what have I started?? ...
Don't worry pard. Remmy 700's by & large, are good rifles.
If yer after a really nice one, set-up to sub MOA grouping,
talk to guntech. He'll do you right fer sure!
Sask_Hunter
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Saskatchewan
Don't worry pard. Remmy 700's by & large, are good rifles.
If yer after a really nice one, set-up to sub MOA grouping,
talk to guntech. He'll do you right fer sure!
The 700 has been doin it for 50 years and will keep doing it.
Hey fuddwump,
the o.p. clarified what he wanted in post 15. So your thoughts, as mis-guided as they are, don't mean a pinch of coon shiit
This is very appropriate.
elker, you did not address my previous post:
Please tell all of us how experienced you are with firearms and what exactly made you to form your opinion of Remington 700's, the strongest, safest 2 locking lug rifle ever made...
- Location
- B.C. Interior
Who points guns at kids death trigger or not?
I had to have a bit of a giggle.
It appears to me that the fellow going by the name of Elker is synonymous with those in the internet age whom are the gullible ones to every misguided or agenda laced story out there. If it is on Youtube or on some website or other, then it must be true. Elker's posts reflect that my statement is true, otherwise he would have stated actual concerns based on his own experience with that firearm.
The advice provided by Guntech and others are from those whom actually have experience with a Remington 700.
I too, am a proud owner of a Remington 700. Cosmetically, it is different that the rifles produced 15 years ago, but then again, so are all the other brands too. I had a particular dislike for the tupperware stock on my rifle, as it was too flexible in hot weather and touched the barrel. The mechanics of the action and trigger are excellent and I have never had a problem.
About 5 or so years ago, I heard about the so called "trigger problem". Instead of absorbing all I could on the internet, I visited a friend of mine whom is a licensed gunsmith. He gladly pulled apart an example of the trigger mechanism and unequivocally demonstrated that those factory triggers in the Youtube and videos he saw were tampered with. That was good enough for me.
I am also a proud owner of a brand new Marlin 336W. Do not spew any of that rubbish about that rifle, when you have not ever shot one. I sold one about 4 months ago (2011 model) not because it had a leaning sight (which was fixed by turning it around), - Ya, I had a bit of a chuckle over that - rather, because it did not shoot cast bullets worth a darn.
Turns out that the issue was with me, not the rifle, as I was not preparing my cases properly. Some great folks on here provided me with solid advice and they were spot on! Today, my new rifle shoots incredible groups and is very impressive mechanically.
The bottom line, is that we all know that there will be those Fudds or people whom like to spew garbage as their opinion for no other reason than attention or to be noticed as a pastime. Best to just ignore them or when they get a little beligerent...report them to the Moderators for not following the Gunnutz policies.
As to the Op, I would suggest that if you are looking to purchase a Remington, go to the stores and examine as many models as you like. Note that the bolts are pretty much the same for all. Pick the one the you like the best for fit, styling, pricing and best suited for your needs.
Then.....Happy Shooting!
It appears to me that the fellow going by the name of Elker is synonymous with those in the internet age whom are the gullible ones to every misguided or agenda laced story out there. If it is on Youtube or on some website or other, then it must be true. Elker's posts reflect that my statement is true, otherwise he would have stated actual concerns based on his own experience with that firearm.
The advice provided by Guntech and others are from those whom actually have experience with a Remington 700.
I too, am a proud owner of a Remington 700. Cosmetically, it is different that the rifles produced 15 years ago, but then again, so are all the other brands too. I had a particular dislike for the tupperware stock on my rifle, as it was too flexible in hot weather and touched the barrel. The mechanics of the action and trigger are excellent and I have never had a problem.
About 5 or so years ago, I heard about the so called "trigger problem". Instead of absorbing all I could on the internet, I visited a friend of mine whom is a licensed gunsmith. He gladly pulled apart an example of the trigger mechanism and unequivocally demonstrated that those factory triggers in the Youtube and videos he saw were tampered with. That was good enough for me.
I am also a proud owner of a brand new Marlin 336W. Do not spew any of that rubbish about that rifle, when you have not ever shot one. I sold one about 4 months ago (2011 model) not because it had a leaning sight (which was fixed by turning it around), - Ya, I had a bit of a chuckle over that - rather, because it did not shoot cast bullets worth a darn.
Turns out that the issue was with me, not the rifle, as I was not preparing my cases properly. Some great folks on here provided me with solid advice and they were spot on! Today, my new rifle shoots incredible groups and is very impressive mechanically.
The bottom line, is that we all know that there will be those Fudds or people whom like to spew garbage as their opinion for no other reason than attention or to be noticed as a pastime. Best to just ignore them or when they get a little beligerent...report them to the Moderators for not following the Gunnutz policies.
As to the Op, I would suggest that if you are looking to purchase a Remington, go to the stores and examine as many models as you like. Note that the bolts are pretty much the same for all. Pick the one the you like the best for fit, styling, pricing and best suited for your needs.
Then.....Happy Shooting!
- Location
- Dah Soo,ON
I personally love the new evil GunTech that doesnt take schit from idiots.
Whereever you stashed friendly old GunTech...leave him tied up there
Whereever you stashed friendly old GunTech...leave him tied up there
gunrunner8
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Kamloops, B.C.
By no means I am an expert on Rem mod 700 but according to Frank de Haas that action could be much much better and I agree. " Best, strongest and safest two lug action in the world"?- somebody is reading to much of Remington broshure propaganda. Well, Frank de Haas is in opinion that ejection port is milled to large and that larger strip of metal should be left in right wall just like Savage and Ruger equivalent to make the action a little bit stiffer for better heavy barrel support (Browning BBR has the same ailment). Also I agree that first "expandable ring" (out of "three rings of steel") will work as designed with regular magnum cartridges in case of brass failure. "Expandable ring" for medium cartridges chamberings like 308W or 30-06 Spr might work or not depending on pressure of blowback gas, but to expect that "expandable ring" will seal the chamber for say 223Rem cartridge is a pure pipe dream, there is just to much metal in it. Also silver soldering or brazing the bolt handle to bolt body is not strong enough to treat it as a safety lug in this case additional safety lug as found on Mauser 98 for instance would do it much good (or tig welding that handle "for a fistfull of dollars more") Don't expect that from Remington's bean counters though....
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It's been years since I purchased a Model 700 Remingtion. The one that I owned worked quite well with no issues. The model 700 is a great action for building around, if a person would like a custom gun.......... there are many custom components that manufactures offer to build a custom gun. Lately I have been hearing negative comments about the Remington going south with their quility. These days you get what you pay for. Yester year all gun manufactures made better quality forearms and today they pump them our as quickly as they can to make more money............it's quanity, not quality.
I agree on your first few words...
From experience beginning in 1969 with a 700 7mm Rem Mag that a .303 British was fired in... the bullet went out the muzzle. The rear of the .303 case fire formed into a replica of a belted magnum and sealed perfectly. The barrel had to be removed to get the case out. Upon inspection it was found nothing was wrong with the rifle. It was re assembled and continued to shoot just fine. The owner became more careful about what cartridges he put in it. Try that in any other bolt action and see what may happen.
About two years ago a fellow had some problems with loading his .223 ammo. He blew a case as badly as I have seen. The bolt nose was damaged and there was some gas leakage but it held together just fine. He proceeded to shoot some more and had a second case let loose. Again the rifle held together. It was determined on tumbling cases not all of the media was removed from inside the case, and when loaded this cut down case capacity and raised pressures way up. Any other action bolt action would not have fared so well.
If you really think Remingtons advertisement about the three rings of steel surrounding the head of the cartridge is just propaganda, you are wrong.
As far a containing a catastrophic case failure the 700 extractor system surrounded by those 3 rings of steel, is the strongest, safest system ever produced in a 2 locking lug action - period. Only the misinformed would argue against that fact.
This is what happen when gas escapes on catastrophic case failures... not a Remington 700.
ALBERTA BOY
Regular
- Location
- Edmonton, AB
I have owned a few Remington rifles. A couple of years ago I had a 597 which was problematic and frankly unsafe.
However, I think due to their declining reputation, they have improved things a bit.
I have a new production 597 that is flawless. They've truly worked the bugs out of this one. It's also very accurate.
I just bought a marlin 336 made in 2012. Remington's reputation with these rifles was so poor they stopped producing them in order to work out the bugs.
The one I have shoots sub moa and the cycling and finish is okay.
The sight is indexed off a bit and the wood is too proud of the tang on one side.
That said, my marlin 36 from 1947 also has the sights indexed off and the wood is too proud on the same side so I guess the new one is no worse than the old one.
All in all, I'm happy with the new ones. The ones from just a couple of years ago were a different story.
I will say that I've had better experiences with Remington QC than I have with Savage. I have owned about 9 Savage rifles and have found major (IMO) problems from the factory with every single one.
The only brand that I've owned which has had NO factory defects that I could find is Weatherby although I certainly haven't owned them all!
YMMV
FWIW
However, I think due to their declining reputation, they have improved things a bit.
I have a new production 597 that is flawless. They've truly worked the bugs out of this one. It's also very accurate.
I just bought a marlin 336 made in 2012. Remington's reputation with these rifles was so poor they stopped producing them in order to work out the bugs.
The one I have shoots sub moa and the cycling and finish is okay.
The sight is indexed off a bit and the wood is too proud of the tang on one side.
That said, my marlin 36 from 1947 also has the sights indexed off and the wood is too proud on the same side so I guess the new one is no worse than the old one.
All in all, I'm happy with the new ones. The ones from just a couple of years ago were a different story.
I will say that I've had better experiences with Remington QC than I have with Savage. I have owned about 9 Savage rifles and have found major (IMO) problems from the factory with every single one.
The only brand that I've owned which has had NO factory defects that I could find is Weatherby although I certainly haven't owned them all!
YMMV
FWIW
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- Dah Soo,ON
But the internet told me EVERY Savage is flawless and a sub-MOA shooter out of the box? I heard they need no load workup, no bedding, no trigger adjustment, and no other tinkering to have them shooting and cycling reliably and safely 100% of the time....surely this wasnt biased information I read?
FWIW youre more peristant than me...I quit buying Salvages after my 2nd one
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- Southern Vancouver Island
I've owned numerous Remmy 700's over the years and have had only one
that had an f-up. In 2006 I bought a new BDL in .17 Remington that
broke the extractor clip after only 30 firings. I examinined this part and
found it to be roughly finished and had broken into 2 parts.
I got a new one from Brownell's,then carefully de-burred and polished the
part then placed it back into the thoroughly cleaned bolt head.
No more issues with it since. Broken extractors are probably the most
common bugga-boo with 700's, but they are cheap to replace.
Ensuring a clean & properly lubed rifle helps bigtime in maintaining
reliable function.
that had an f-up. In 2006 I bought a new BDL in .17 Remington that
broke the extractor clip after only 30 firings. I examinined this part and
found it to be roughly finished and had broken into 2 parts.
I got a new one from Brownell's,then carefully de-burred and polished the
part then placed it back into the thoroughly cleaned bolt head.
No more issues with it since. Broken extractors are probably the most
common bugga-boo with 700's, but they are cheap to replace.
Ensuring a clean & properly lubed rifle helps bigtime in maintaining
reliable function.
