Going on a small hunting trip in a few weeks with some friends, all of which have their hunting license but one (he doesn't have his PAL either, but we're getting him into shooting and he's just waiting for the date of his CFSC and hunters safety course). Are we allowed to bring him along too? Assuming he has his own tags (pardon my ignorance, but can you get a tag without a permit? It's going to be my first time out) and borrowed rifle, is he allowed to hunt with us without a license of his own, as long as he's with us?
Question about bringing a friend hunting who doesn't have a license.
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im under the impression he can tag along no problem, but its one gun per license. he can borrow to shoot, but must be under your surveillance.
in im NB, our regs may differ
in im NB, our regs may differ
He has to have his own animal tags to go hunting, but he does not need a PAL, as long as someone with a PAL is with him. I know in Saskatchewan your supposed to have a hunters safety course or firearms safety course to buy your tags to hunt, but I dont think it is enforced nor punishable. But DO NOT quote me on that. But if he is in your vehicle or with the group and carrying a fire arm, he better have some deer tags (or what ever your hunting).
He doesn't have his PAL or hunting license. We're in Quebec. I'll look up the provincial regs when I have a moment, but do you guys know if he can carry a rifle with us as long as he stays WITH us under supervision, absent the cards? And can he get a tag without a hunting license, or can one of us with a license get an extra tag for him?
Thanks for the quick replies by the way.
Thanks for the quick replies by the way.
What would be the point of a hunting course/licence if you could just be joe-blow and go buy tags to hunt?
It is required to have a licence to hunt to buy these tags, and they are non-transferable. There is such a thing as party-hunting, but each person in the group will be licensed.
As for having a firearm without a PAL, as long as someone is able to be with your friend (not exactly holding hands, but not miles away either - within ear shot of each other would be reasonable) who holds a current PAL, he is good to use a rifle.
In Ontario, there are 2 levels of hunter licencing h1 and h2. There is some special wording to take note in ours (Onterrible) that says the holder of an H2 is NOT to hunt with a rifle, even though under the PAL rulings one is eligible to carry a rifle with supervision from a PAL holder.
Better check your regs, or call a CFO for verification. Internet replies can get you into bad situations, and "*enter screen name* told me it was okay on CGN" is not a valid argument. But from what you're describing, without looking up your regs Im going to go with a VERY confident nope he cant come and do what you're asking.
PERHAPS, he could come, and tag along, but that is it; he does not carry any equipment, does not "flush" out anything, does not mention seeing an animal that way, does not do anything aside from walk beside/behind you, etc, it may be okay. But in the off chance you come across a CFO, you have to explain this to him, and it will be his decision on if he believes you.
It is required to have a licence to hunt to buy these tags, and they are non-transferable. There is such a thing as party-hunting, but each person in the group will be licensed.
As for having a firearm without a PAL, as long as someone is able to be with your friend (not exactly holding hands, but not miles away either - within ear shot of each other would be reasonable) who holds a current PAL, he is good to use a rifle.
In Ontario, there are 2 levels of hunter licencing h1 and h2. There is some special wording to take note in ours (Onterrible) that says the holder of an H2 is NOT to hunt with a rifle, even though under the PAL rulings one is eligible to carry a rifle with supervision from a PAL holder.
Better check your regs, or call a CFO for verification. Internet replies can get you into bad situations, and "*enter screen name* told me it was okay on CGN" is not a valid argument. But from what you're describing, without looking up your regs Im going to go with a VERY confident nope he cant come and do what you're asking.
PERHAPS, he could come, and tag along, but that is it; he does not carry any equipment, does not "flush" out anything, does not mention seeing an animal that way, does not do anything aside from walk beside/behind you, etc, it may be okay. But in the off chance you come across a CFO, you have to explain this to him, and it will be his decision on if he believes you.
As I understand it, you can bring "bystanders" with you. People to tag along while you hunt, without them needing a license. Otherwise pretty much anyone who has ever taken their kid hunting would be violating the law.
However, if that person is going to be hunting as well, they would need a license. Effectively as many licenses as active hunters is how I understand it.
That may vary though, as I expect pretty much everyone would just say "I'm just taking a look around." Rather than confess to poaching. So the COs might just get fed up with it and mandate that everyone needs a license if they're going to be in the woods.
However, if that person is going to be hunting as well, they would need a license. Effectively as many licenses as active hunters is how I understand it.
That may vary though, as I expect pretty much everyone would just say "I'm just taking a look around." Rather than confess to poaching. So the COs might just get fed up with it and mandate that everyone needs a license if they're going to be in the woods.
CFSC is so you can own/have firearms. Some people choose never to shoot their firearms and are strictly collectors. Wheres the fun in that though, but regardless you dont need the CFSC to shoot, only to own them.Well what's the point of the CFSC if you can bring joe blow without a PAL to shoot?
But ya, I'm going to call and find out for sure. Just thought I would ask here first to see if anyone knew for sure.
cfsc makes sure that in a group of shooters at least one of them knows how to avoid accidents, allowing them to mentor the group and ensure everybody makes it home.
sort of like how you dont need a big truck (A or D) license to drive a big truck... you can drive one if the guy sitting beside you has the appropriate license.
if you bring someone hunting that doesnt have a license... i suggest that person practice appearing deaf. i doubt any enforcement folk gonna call an interpreter into the bush. i got a buddy thats deaf, dude gets away with EVERYTHING.
sort of like how you dont need a big truck (A or D) license to drive a big truck... you can drive one if the guy sitting beside you has the appropriate license.
if you bring someone hunting that doesnt have a license... i suggest that person practice appearing deaf. i doubt any enforcement folk gonna call an interpreter into the bush. i got a buddy thats deaf, dude gets away with EVERYTHING.
In Alberta, it's not so simple but thankfully the COs seem to use some common sense. If someone tags along with you and they in anyway assist with the hunt....including looking for animals, they are deemed to be hunting without a licence. Very stupid I know. Just another of the countless things that need fixing in the Wildlife Act.
As for a hunter with no PAL, they can carry a rifle but must be accompanied by a PAL holder that is in direct supervision....typically regarded as arm's length.
In BC, if you don't have a PAL but do have a hunting license, (and tags), you can hunt but you have to stay roughly in arms reach of the owner of the gun and there can only be one gun between you.
I know this cause I had to ask
when my PAL renewal looked like it was going to be late.
Luckily it will arrive on time cause that would not work for me!
I know this cause I had to ask
when my PAL renewal looked like it was going to be late.
Luckily it will arrive on time cause that would not work for me!
CFO has nothing to do with hunting. Contact a Conservation Officer/Natural Resources for hunting related questions. If he had a hunting license he could use your rifle without a PAL, but without either license, I don't believe he will be allowed to participate in the hunt. That would include dogging the bush, tracking a wounded deer, etc...
