Question about crown land and hunting and target shooting

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Hey all,

I am planning to go out this weekend a find a decent place to hunt on crownland.

I just want to make sure that everything I am doing is legal.

Basically I went to http://crownlanduseatlas.mnr.gov.on.ca/tilemaps/tileindex_prov.html and found out where the corwn land is.

About 1 hour North East, it shows that I have crownland near me. I downloaded the map for the area and on the map the location I am looking at says "General Use Area"

Does this mean that this weekend, I can bring my guns pull over on the side of the road where this map is showing and start shooting away safely without any problems?

Is all crown land public land because I am sure in the spot I am looking at on the map I would swear people live there.

I also plan on talking to the locals to find a good spot to hunt in the area so later in the year I have a place to go.

So I just want to make sure I am doing things the proper way.

Pleas ehelp me out

Thanks
 
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I am looking for a city called Coboconk but I can't find anything yet.

So if it is ok to shoot, everything should be fine?
 
cereal83 said:
I am looking for a city called Coboconk but I can't find anything yet.

So if it is ok to shoot, everything should be fine?
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i know the town well....... but i do not know there bylaw,s...i,ll try and snoop to see what i can dig up...........
btw........stay away from th patty house up there;) unless you want to get laid:D
 
Thanks for looking into it for me.

Patty house? Is that the jail there or something else? I have never been there
 
Crown land is often leased. Sometimes it's to forestsry concerns for lumber harvesting, sometimes it's to ranchers for grazing, sometimes it's to individuals for commercial recreational activities. It's a must to find out if the land is leased because the leasee has similar rights and responsibilities as a private land owner, over his leased land.

I'd be pretty pissed if some city slicker was out popping off rounds in a treed area that my cows were grazing! Loggers would take a dim view to lead flying around them, and the equestrians would be miffed to find a shot horse.

Crown land isn't necessarily wild.............
 
Ive found that most Logging leased land is usually OK to hunt on. just stick to the areas that are no longer in use because well ur not going to be too succesful if your hunting beside an active logging operation.
 
You'll find that the ministry is selling off crown land. Ya they'll tell you that its a millionth of a percent every million years. Only problem with that is that you'll find that those sales are of the finest land to the finest people ($$$$$$). and along roadways in such a way that make the hundreds of acres of crown behind them only accessable by them:mad:
 
Well before I start shooting, I am going to walk around and see whats up everywhere I can.

I don't really wanna be shooting and somebody come running towards me waving their hands telling me I have killed 2-3 horses. I will most likely be shooting in a open field with a good backstop.

As long as everything I said up there is legal, then I am good
 
Well - There is a good chance you will be confronted - particularly if you start shooting centerfire. Most likely by the men in blue, responding to a complaint, as the sound of a centrefire rifle can carry for a few km.
Cereal - I hate to see someone all "gunned up " with no place to go. If you're willing to drive the extra distance to Bancroft, I'll take you as a guest to the local range - it wont cost you anything, and you can blast away to your hearts content - you might even learn something about marksmanship. PM me if this is of interest.
 
cosmic said:
Well - There is a good chance you will be confronted - particularly if you start shooting centerfire. Most likely by the men in blue, responding to a complaint, as the sound of a centrefire rifle can carry for a few km.
Cereal - I hate to see someone all "gunned up " with no place to go. If you're willing to drive the extra distance to Bancroft, I'll take you as a guest to the local range - it wont cost you anything, and you can blast away to your hearts content - you might even learn something about marksmanship. PM me if this is of interest.
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I would love to take you up on this offer but this weekend I don't have enough time to drive 3 hours to your area. I may take you up on this next weekend or sometime in May because I am always willing to learn. Thanks for offering.

John Y Cannuck said:
Coboconk, Just north of me, is poacher central. If you shoot there, you will likely get a visit unless you inform the MNR/OPP first.
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As long as I have my PAL and gun registration I should be ok no? I am not too worried about them coming down to check out what I am doing as long as they don't come to any crazy conclusions.


Now the question is, Do I even bring my hunting license even thought I am not planning to hunt?
 
Do I even bring my hunting license even thought I am not planning to hunt?
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Makes sence to have it along. Then your small game covers you to some degree
There used to be a provision that went something like ... evidence of hunting.... being in posession of a firearm in an area inhabited by game...
I don't see it in the regs anymore. Just food for thought.
 
All the above answers are very good the only thing left out is to check with the local MNR office and they usually can give you some good info on laws and the dos and don'ts. But as cosmic has stated if you are looking to just shoot then I suggest visiting a local gun range perhaps as a visitor at first.
Goodluck
 
hunt365 said:
All the above answers are very good the only thing left out is to check with the local MNR office and they usually can give you some good info on laws and the dos and don'ts. But as cosmic has stated if you are looking to just shoot then I suggest visiting a local gun range perhaps as a visitor at first.
Goodluck
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The only range I would consider charges $1000 for the first year. I just can't spend that kind of money on a place where I will go 1 time a month. Thats about $84 a visit. Barrie range is an hour and a half, Orillia range is right on the north side of Orillia, Aurora range is mostly for handguns, Grange is mostly for handguns. I don't know anybody who will let me shoot on their property so I have no other option.

Shooting is crown land is legal and I plan to take advantage of this. I drive for 1 hour and I can shoot all day long, for free (except for gas) and after I find a good place to shoot, I can find a good place ot hunt for this upcoming season.
 
Well I just got off the phone with the Kawartha lakes bylaw office and they said they don't have a map of where you can or cannot fire a firearm but they are faxing me a peice of paper that says where I can and can't. She said you basically just can't shot around towns and that sort of stuff. So this weekend, I finally get to shoot of my new guns which I have had for almost 2 weeks :)


Now I have 1 more question. I plan on buying a shotgun tomorrow. I want to bring it with to to test fire it. Now it says I have to have registration papers with me but I won't have any. Does that mean I can't bring it and have to wait until I get the peice of paper in the mail before shooting it or can I just write down that number they give you and use that?

Let me know.


Thanks
 
cereal83 said:
Well I just got off the phone with the Kawartha lakes bylaw office and they said they don't have a map of where you can or cannot fire a firearm but they are faxing me a peice of paper that says where I can and can't. She said you basically just can't shot around towns and that sort of stuff. So this weekend, I finally get to shoot of my new guns which I have had for almost 2 weeks :)


Now I have 1 more question. I plan on buying a shotgun tomorrow. I want to bring it with to to test fire it. Now it says I have to have registration papers with me but I won't have any. Does that mean I can't bring it and have to wait until I get the peice of paper in the mail before shooting it or can I just write down that number they give you and use that?

Let me know.


Thanks
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Just write down the number they gave you. Actually what I do is take the receipt with me (that has the gun's serial and description on it) and write the ref number on that paper.
 
The shop you buy the shotty at will give you a copy of the transfer from the CFC (at least thats what they did for me last week). This will do for the time being. If its a private sale, get the number from the CFC.

Check with the local Fish and Wildlife office in the area you plan on shooting. They will provide better answers then any bylaw office. I've called RCMP in an area up north checking to see if I could shoot targets (crown land). They said in a very firm way "NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT." Called the Fish and Wildlife guy, he said no problem. In fact, where I wanted to shoot was where he shoots. It's tough to get straight answers these days.

Have fun!
 
Is the Fishing and Wildlife office the Ministry of Natural resources or is it something else? I can also call there just to make sure. I just don't want to be shooting and then a swat team shows up and I get fined and blah blah blah. Want to make it as safe and as fun as possible.

I am buying the shotgun from a friend. So when I call the CFC to finish the transfer, they give me a certificate number, this is good enough to go shooting with it?

Thanks
 
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