Question about Garands and Mosins

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I'm curious as to why Garands typically go for over a grand and Mosins are so dirt cheap. Aren't they wartime East/West equivalents of each other? Was talking to a guy at the range the other day said he paid $1800 for his Garand. Why such a huge price difference between these 2?
 
Apples and oranges for one, and the other being supply and demand. Low supply of M1's (no new imports) and huge demand due to Band of Brothers and the like.
 
Well about 6.25 million Garands were produced. A total of approximately 37 million Mosin Nagants were produced total. Coupled with the fact most Americans and Canadians want to have a M1 Garand mostly due to the fact it was issued to America (just like how the Ross rifle is a desired rifle here due to the made in Canada factor). Another factor playing into it is the fact that the supply of Garands have long since dried up (unless some other country gets rid of there stockpile) vs Russia (and former Soviet States) who have massive stockpiles of Mosins that they are trying to sell off. Another contributing factor is the magazine pinning limits which do not effect the M1 Garand as it is specially exempted.
 
^^^^exactly. Mosins suck...lol.
I've had a few, always end up selling them off. Absolutely great for what they were at the time...cheaply produced basic bolt action rifle to arm the masses. I get no enjoyment out of the clunky action, the excessive recoil due to the low angle of the butt, and the mediocre sights....
Should be comparing the SVT to the M1 though....
 
Hitzy said:
^^^^exactly. Mosins suck...lol.
I've had a few, always end up selling them off. Absolutely great for what they were at the time...cheaply produced basic bolt action rifle to arm the masses. I get no enjoyment out of the clunky action, the excessive recoil due to the low angle of the butt, and the mediocre sights....
Should be comparing the SVT to the M1 though....
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I like my mosins a 91/30 was the first gun I paid for its the most clunky beat up "POS" you could find but to me its that rifles history. just like my beat up and shoot out no4 mk1 it has seen plenty of use but do I mark it as a POS no because I know its history it was issued to my great grandfather who carried it through Europe.

but yeah its apples to oranges here comparing a m1 garand to a mosin considering the market is flooded with mosins while there is no source of surplus garands
 
Thanks for clarifying. I suspected supply and demand, never realized they only made so few Garands! Band Of Brothers eh? What about Enemy At The Gates? That's some fine shooting with a Mosin, no?
 
Nomurica said:
Thanks for clarifying. I suspected supply and demand, never realized they only made so few Garands! Band Of Brothers eh? What about Enemy At The Gates? That's some fine shooting with a Mosin, no?
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enemy at the gates along with note of a Russian sniper(the book written by vasily zaytsev) makes me wonder where what happened to the non scoped rifle MR zaytsev had and who's hands is it in now was it parted out or refurbed or did it meet its fate in the hands of bubba
 
Most of the M1 Garand rifles,m1 carbine rifles and m14 rifles have been cut up by the us government or are owned by them
overseas. If Israel didn't sell the few thousand m14 rifles into the Canadian market there would be none. The rest were made into parts
kits for the USA market..
M1 Garand rifles sold by Denmark gave us rifles and Americans parts kits and some rifles.
Now they are not allowed into the USA as complete guns.
 
A Mosin is 160 bucks, but ammo is also cheap and available by the boat load. Garands are not cheap and ammunition is not available. If you like shnits n giggles with old guns and ammo, Russia is the way to go. There are many others, but you pay more, sometimes much much more.


I successfully hunt with one of my Mosin rifles with iron sights. There are not a lot of places near the farm where I can shoot more than 150 yards, and the Mosin works well in all conditions. Each to their own. I have fondness for the crudeness and history of the old Mosin.
 
Hitzy said:
^^^^exactly. Mosins suck...lol.
I've had a few, always end up selling them off. Absolutely great for what they were at the time...cheaply produced basic bolt action rifle to arm the masses. I get no enjoyment out of the clunky action, the excessive recoil due to the low angle of the butt, and the mediocre sights....
Should be comparing the SVT to the M1 though....
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I use Frog Lube on my bolt and it's like butter . Only starts slowing down after about 80 rounds . By then my shoulder is starting to say " Ouchie " anyways .
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fiddler said:
Each to their own. I have fondness for the crudeness and history of the old Mosin.
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Yup. I feel the same. It goes boom, good enough. Crude, effective, historical. Love it! Mind you a few nice newer bolt actions people at the range let me try out, were pretty nice too. I just don't have it in me to spend $1800 on one rifle.
 
It's more about Hollywood than anything else. When 'Enemy at the gates' was in the movie houses, more Mosins were sold. M1 Rifles have been in far more movies than any Russian bolt action. Plus the supply and demand thing.
 
Until South Korea finally sells their 86,000 + stockpile of M1 Garands and 770,000 + M1 Carbines they're sitting on....
 
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tjsudbury said:
How come vintage Ford Mustangs are worth way more than an old Lada?
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Hey... don't you be dissin' my Lada !! :)

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