Question about hunting around oil leases in Alberta

Leased Crown Land is the same as the lease on an apartment. It's no longer 'public'. Shooting at signs, anybody's sign, is slob hunter vandalism
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............Sorry dude. I work at a mine and its a lease. We have reclaimed lakes on it with some of the biggest rainbows you will see and we allow public hike in access.
 
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Win, is the road near a plant or a lot of other above ground facilities such as pipe line risers, or buildings? Is the sign refering to just one area and road or is it a generic sign posted every ware?
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......................its one sign on a 20km road that isn't much of a road going through prime elk habitat. No buildings, offices, shacks, sheds, Tim Hortons, yadda yadda yadda. People camp and fish all over this area. After 20 km it leads to a tiny pumping station smaller than my 10'x12' foot shed in my backyard.
 
sunray said:
Leased Crown Land is the same as the lease on an apartment. It's no longer 'public'. .
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Depends where you are and what type of Crown Lease you have.

Some allow public acess, some restrict it during some times of year, some have no public restrictions, just allows you to do something there (like build a abin or something)

Mines have completley different systems, in BC, anyway. Her,e the BC Mines Act is pretty much more powerful than anythign else, and they can do as they like...:runaway:
 
Win94 said:
......................its one sign on a 20km road that isn't much of a road going through prime elk habitat. No buildings, offices, shacks, sheds, Tim Hortons, yadda yadda yadda. People camp and fish all over this area. After 20 km it leads to a tiny pumping station smaller than my 10'x12' foot shed in my backyard.
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Win94 I wouldn't worry to much about the no shooting sign. Petro Can has these signs on lots of their roads in the Drayton Valley area (west of) I think it was to try and keep the roads safe when they were working in the area. Use common sense and you will be fine. There are probably lots of leases close to the road causing concern at the time they were working in there.
 
Hey Win94, maybe the road is designated as a wildlife corridor , and therefore has a 300m from centreline on both sides. I know some of the haul roads in the Peace country have them and are set at 400m from centreline. I know FW patrol a few of these hual roads with the wildlife, and have ticketed people. In these wildlife corridors, your firearm must be in a case and if with a clip, not with the firearm. If you have no case, then either the bolt must be removed, or trigger locks installed.
 
Wildlife corridor.

I have intimate knowledge on this subject (Alberta only). I am in this as an occupation. Wildlife corridors are signed well and shown on the regs maps. The ones in the Peace Counrty are signed well at the beginning. When it comes to oil and gas roads that are held under LOC [/B](licence of occupation), unless they are signed and specified that they are under a ministerial order to prohibit access (incidentally there is one of these at the end of the wildlife corridor in the Peace country) you are allowed to travel it. If it is signed by a company that there is no shooting from the road, usually there is no legislative teeth behind it, probably just company policy. Always be sure that there are no strucutres around when you shoot.
 
The regs are pretty clear...

When they say regularly maintained, do they mean maintained by the government or maintained by anyone??
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By anyone (who has the right to maintain it - try driving a grader down a road allowance that is overgrown and see if anyone comes at mach-chicken once you are noticed).

Is this true?
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Most likely. Read Kev's post.
The statement applies to all roads EXCEPT those under a PLA disposition. Most oilfield roads fall into this category, so you are generally allowed to shoot from them. However, when a company applies for this disposition, the Gov't MAY tell them they must install access control features, and can in fact, place further prohibitions on at the time of disposition issuance. So, if there is a sign telling you shooting is prohibited, there is a good chance it has legal backing.
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Permission to build a road on Crown land usually comes with stipulations saying you must restrict access, and may contain other requirements the company must meet (or else the government can fine them, deny further permits, or revoke the permit for the road in question).

Just because it's Crown land doesn't mean you can go on it. Try going into the Siffleur or Whitegoat and find out how much 'right' you have to go running around doing whatever you like on Crown land...

Don't like it? Vote someone else in then or get the people we have to make hunting, trapping and fishing a priority for land-use management under law.

Really want to know the answer?
Phone the RITE line (toll-free) and get connected to the Lands office in your area.
Have the legal land location of the road handy.
Have details of the sign available.
Get the name and job title of the person to whom you are speaking and write it down along with the answer (when you get a call back from the person who actually knows).
Remember, the government employee to whom you speak is there to serve you and the rest of the citizens of Alberta, but probably won't appreciate being told that they work for you.
 
Here's my two cents. If it is gated and locked its like that for a reason, walk or maybe take your quad around, leave the truck parked on the side of the road. If it is a RADIO-CONTROLLED with an active log haul or rig move. STAY THE HELL OFF or spent the $8 a day and rent a proper road radio and call out you km's. Last winter I almost tagged three road hunters on a very steep narrow muddy lease road who were NOT using a radio. Very stressful with a big truck and trailer.
 
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What about this scenario?

There are a few gated roads that I have come across that are marked. " Authorized vehicle access only for wildlife management purposes" (or something like that )with reference to Talisman Energy and a Fish and Wildlife phone number. Now, we've seen elk nearby and when we walked in, there were what I believe to be caribou tracks in the area. I know you can't hunbt the caribou, but it is a general elk zone. WTF????
 
Dave, gates are usually just installed on new roads...that is, not typically put on roads which have been in existence for awhile. The basic premise is...if a new road is built, and gated, your traditional access hasn't changed. If you used to walk in there to hunt, go ahead and walk in. If you used to quad, go ahead and quad the same way you always did. Access control is used for all types of wildlife, not just caribou.
 
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