My buddy has a Stag and its abit of a dog. I have several LMTs that run top notch. Noveske, is almost like a boutique limited run type gun...nice stuff, use to see a few around a few years ago, but not so common now. Its on my list to get if Mark (hint) gets some permits and brings some in.
Question about Noveske reliability
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dangertree
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Motive-free problem claims are frankly unbelievably rare. I thought I saw one from the OP, thus the question.
Have a Novesky love it. So far best operating AR I've ever owned. I have a 12.5 with the monolitic upper.
1800 rnds and nothing but lube, no cleaning, no issues. Shooting a mix of AE red box, black box, Norinco, Winchester white box all 55 grn and some 62 grain, (60 rnds).
1800 rnds and nothing but lube, no cleaning, no issues. Shooting a mix of AE red box, black box, Norinco, Winchester white box all 55 grn and some 62 grain, (60 rnds).
It's misleading because the stated rifle spec "facts" are not always correct, even in the updated form.
noveske is dream material for me, come on 649 lol.
my dilemma is not so much the platform, but the round. still on the fence between 5.56 and 7.62nato. i shoot 7.62 through my deuce and would like to keep the shtf firearms chambered the same. the shortest i can go on the AR10 is 12.5 inches afaik, noveske or socom supply (used to be sponsors here) and ain't cheap, but those 7.5's look like so much dang fun....oh well, i'm broke now so it don't matter.
my dilemma is not so much the platform, but the round. still on the fence between 5.56 and 7.62nato. i shoot 7.62 through my deuce and would like to keep the shtf firearms chambered the same. the shortest i can go on the AR10 is 12.5 inches afaik, noveske or socom supply (used to be sponsors here) and ain't cheap, but those 7.5's look like so much dang fun....oh well, i'm broke now so it don't matter.
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All comes down to:
- Can you afford 7.62 ammo indefinitely?
- Do you prefer 10rd instead of 5rd mags?
- Do you go to the gym 5 days a week?
Throttle_monkey1
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Sure I'll tell you what I've been experiencing. It's very ammo picky. I've tried different buffers, but it never seems to run 100% and lock back on an empty mag. It's a 10.5" LMT upper. I haven't been to the range in a long time, and will let you know how it goes when I do. I changed the gas rings as well to see if it will help.
AN AR is suppose to lock to the rear on an empty mag?? Sounds like you have little knowledge of how that rifle should work..
If you ever go to Silverdale or the BRC let me know i can help you determine the problem if any...
Have you tried different magazines?
What types of Ammo?
More info needed?
Please be specific... I've seen people tell us they have LMT uppers only to find out later that it's not a factory upper but something that someone either built or modified.
- Was it purchased new or used?
- Did it come directly from Questar or someone else?
- Was it purchased as a complete upper half with LMT BCG, etc. or was it assembled using various components and parts and if so who's components and parts?
- What specific Bolt and Carrier are you using? Did it come with the Upper or purchased separately?
- Has anyone modified the upper or parts in any way (other than you said you replaced the gas rings)?
- How many rounds were on the upper before you replaced the rings?
- What buffer are you using (who's make and what weight)
- What specific ammo are you using?
- Have you used 5.56NATO spec ammo? If so what brand?
- Did it work with the NATO ammo?
Answers to these specific questions may well indicate where the problem is or at the very least rule out some potential issues.
If this is in fact a factory built upper and hasn't been modified then it should work reliably with quality factory ammunition... happy to assist you in figuring out the source of the problem.
Mark
Throttle_monkey1
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Leiber-I know how an AR is supposed to work. And yes they are supposed to lock with the action open on the last round in a magazine.
Questar- it's a complete LMT upper, a 10.5" defender. I bought it used. I tried running a carbine buffer, stag H buffer, stag H2 buffer and 9pm buffer. It runs best with full power NATO loads such as M193 surplus and q3131A. Remington UMC and TAP training ammo didn't run so well. I did not try my 75grain TAP in 5.56x45.
I will definitely let you know what happens on my next range trip. Thanks for trying to help.
I found that LMT is optimized for 5.56 NATO spec ammunition. With some commercial .223, it can be less than reliable with locking on last round as the ammo is more anemic. I found that PMAG's seem to be almost 100% even with weak commercial .223 in LMT. The LAR15 10 round mags do need ammo with more 'oomph' to consistently run in an LMT. I found 62 grain, or 55 grain with 5.56 velocities will run well in LMT.
If you bought it used then you don't know for sure what's in it or whether it was "played with" before you got it. There are a whole range of things that may have been done to the upper that could be causing the issues you're having.
- If the front sight post was removed and not properly re-installed
- If the gas tube is damaged
- If the gas tube is not sealing properly with the gas key
- If the BCG that's in the upper was not factory installed (which you don't know) it may not be properly head-spaced.
- If the BCG was ever disassembled and the gas key improperly re-installed.
- If the barrel was damaged in any way (chamber could have a burr, etc.).
Just a few possible causes that should be ruled out.
It is quite true that LMT builds their guns to run on full power NATO ammo and some commercial brands are so under-powered that they can cause issues, but I've run a lot of different brands of ammo through my 10.5" LMT and it runs most of what I throw at it.
If you're having as much problem as you suggest then it sounds like something is wrong (besides just ammo).
Mark
All comes down to:
- Can you afford 7.62 ammo indefinitely? affirmative
- Do you prefer 10rd instead of 5rd mags? you lost me on this??? i run a 20 rounder pinned to 5 through my deuce. am i missing something??
- Do you go to the gym 5 days a week? affirmative
the range i go to is maxed at 300 meters, so whether i go with either caliber (5.56 with 7.5inch or 7.62nato with 12.5inch) the fact remains that both will be well suited. most of my shooting is at 50-100 yards, my eyes ain't as young as they used to be
Back to Noveske AR"S...
I would say they are on the top of the list for quality...
I would say KAC, Noveske,LMT, DD for DI guns and spikes seems to be creeping up there as well. There Nickel boron BCG seems to be top quality, but Fail Zero does the coating from what i have herd..I own 2 of them right now...
Also BCM i have herd good things about as well, but i have never touched anything from that i can remember...
I would say they are on the top of the list for quality...
I would say KAC, Noveske,LMT, DD for DI guns and spikes seems to be creeping up there as well. There Nickel boron BCG seems to be top quality, but Fail Zero does the coating from what i have herd..I own 2 of them right now...
Also BCM i have herd good things about as well, but i have never touched anything from that i can remember...
