Question about Savage Actions

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I am thinking of buying a Savage 10-series from their Law Enforcement line and putting on a new barrel (.260)....and stock.

Are the Savage actions all the same? Does it matter if it is a $1800 Savage or a $700 Savage?
or the 12 VLP Varmitter , Is the action the same as the ones found on the 10-Series? they look pretty :)

No sense buying the 10FCP in a McMillan stock when a $700 Precision Scout/carbine will do.


Kind of a newbie question.

Thanks
 
I went through a similar dilemma and settled with the Model 12 VLP partly because I found one for a great price and partly because I read good things about it. When comparing the Model 12 line-up vs. the Model 10 line-up, I found the actions with the stainless steel (Model 12s) were much smoother and felt less clunky but I think this is due entirely to finish of the metal (stainless vs. blued).

From what I've been told all Savage actions are the same, the only thing that differs is where the bolt release is located.
 
The 12 Target models (Lrvp, Palma, F, etc.) have different actions and lighter triggers. Also Model 25's have a compleatly diff action and I think the edge and axis is diff. The rest of the line up has the same action (except length 10 short, 110 long) just a diff finish. The Stevens and some of the 11/111 series have no accutrigger. Some have det mags some don't. So if you don't care about the mag and your willing to buy a new stock and trigger get a Stevens. If you want to just buy a new barrel look at the parts you want to keep and buy the cheapest model with those options.

Did I mention don't heat the barrel nut when removing the old barrel?
 
the basic action is the same (except for the model 25), they differ in material (SS or blued), port location (there are some left-port right bold guns out there), bolt face and action length (of course), and shank size - the VLP and most WSM-chambered actions have a larger barrel shank size
 
Essentially, they all start from the same tube and get milled to make the various rifles.

VLP uses the standard shank. Only the target actions and WSM use the large shank (look for a step on the barrel infront of the nut)

Two types of triggers, and bolt release. I would avoid the accustock rifles if you want to change a bunch of stuff - bottom bolt release, smooth barrel nut.

If you are going to build up and change most things, you might find my articles on my website in the tech section useful.

Decide if you want a det mag or blind mag? What trigger pull weight do you want - Is 2 lbs light enough? Is 1.5? Do you want it in ouces?

What type of rifle do you want to end up with?

For my competition rigs, I start with a Stevens and swap in all the parts I want.

for my tactical 223, I started with a 11FCNS and built up from there.

Lots of options, mix and match parts, get the factory rifle that is as close to your finished rifle as possible EXCEPT the competition rifles. Depending on what you want, you can build a better shooting rifle for similar money.

Jerry
 
Do your homework. Shooting ergonomics is extremely important and far too underemphasized, particularly in this collective. If you go out and buy a "build" project for $400, you are guaranteed to be spending a MINIMUM of close to a grand to get it up to snuff.

I suggest investing in something that has a good quality stock that is properly designed for the type of shooting you do. If you shoot prone or off a bench and want a magazine, the HSP version of the model 10 is a very good value. Later, a trigger tweak and a custom barrel and you have a gun capable of winning any competition.

Otherwise, a superior quality after market stock may start at $450 plus taxes.

These rifles are well made and you need nothing except optics to have a great time. Unless you are fully investing in and acquainted with custom reloading, a custom barrel will not provide you with top notch results, so I do not suggest that for a starter project. STay with good quality factory.

Another option is the Remington 700 5R. These have a terrific stock, a superb action and by most accounts, extremely good out-of-box accuracy with factory ammo.

I suspect you would be better off to buy a good quality well-fitting rifle and work with that. Savage and Remington are extremely versatile for upgrades, with Savage being more amateur friendly.

You need only tweak a few things to make them very accurate, and if/when you are ready to take things to the next level with reloading, a new barrel is an easy upgrade.
 
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