question about the .45-70.

[Mr. Friendly]

are there high pressure, high velocity loads for the .45-70?

if not, why not? the .30-30 was adapted for high pressure loads for the .375 Winchester, so it doesn't make sense that the love hasn't been passed onto the .45-70.

I don't care that there are other options that do this in the .458 caliber. I want to know about the .45-70.

and yes, the book '40 years with the .45-70' is on my buy list.

 

[yomomma]

Thete are but only for use in Ruger No.1 or similar

 

[Mr. Friendly]

Thete are but only for use in Ruger No.1 or similar

or similar...meaning my T/C Encore would qualify, perhaps just not quite as 'hot'.

will the Lyman manual have loads suitable or are there other resources good to look at?

 

[John Y Cannuck]

There are three levels for the 45-70. The Trapdoor Springfield strength loads, the 1886 Winchester strength loads, and the Ruger #1 strength loads. Not sure where your rifle fits in there, but I suspect you will find the 1886 Winchester loads beat the crap out of you enough you may not wish stronger stuff.

 

[Mr. Friendly]

thanks JYC! I've seen some loads for trapdoor...but where would I look up load info for the Ruger #1?

 

[kc34]

thanks JYC! I've seen some loads for trapdoor...but where would I look up load info for the Ruger #1?

Most reloading manuals will show the various levels of 45-70 loads including the heavy Ruger #1 level loads.......brace yourself for recoil!

 

[bugs]

most newer manuals will have loads for all three levels good luck

 

[Mr. Friendly]

well, I just got some 1895 and Ruger #1 load data from Barnes for their 300g TTSX (meant for the .458 SOCOM).

I'll share it in a lil bit...

 

[yomomma]

Lyman has a section for T/C

 

[phishroy]

the hodgdon website lists all 3 load levels. i would stay away from the ruger #1 laods if your gun is not designed to withstand those pressures.

 

[saskgunowner101]

Lyman has a section for T/C

Does your manual list Marlin level loads after this page? Seems watered down compared to full snuff #2 load levels, no?

 

[yomomma]

Manual has 4 different loading for the 45-70, as follows.
Trapdoor.
1886.
Ruger#1
T/C

Edit.

The T/C stuff is in the handgun section.

 

[sail32]

Ask the factory.

 

[jethunter]

are there high pressure, high velocity loads for the .45-70?

if not, why not? the .30-30 was adapted for high pressure loads for the .375 Winchester, so it doesn't make sense that the love hasn't been passed onto the .45-70.

I don't care that there are other options that do this in the .458 caliber. I want to know about the .45-70.

and yes, the book '40 years with the .45-70' is on my buy list.

You need to buy some manuals and start reading them. People have been loading to different pressure levels for 45-70 since the 1800s and this information is described in most reloading manuals. For instance the Lyman book discusses the reasons for the different pressure levels and provides 4 levels of load data. So the "love" has been there all along but you just haven't discovered it yet.

Seriously - buy the Lyman reloading manual and actually read it. You'll learn more in less time.

 

[Andy]

I have used powders ranging from Bullseye to US869 in the 45-70, with IMR4198 (and H4198) being just about perfect for anything from "Powder Puff" to "Full House" loads (in a strong action of course) using bullets weighing from 300 to 500 grs.

There's no shortage of load data. The "Hodgdon Reloading Center" is a good place as is any version of the "Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook". Once you're more experienced and confident, you'll be able to detect good load recommendations on the web.