Question About The French Lebel Rifle

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Hello fellows, I have a question for you experts. Can anyone tell me what is the difference between the French Lebel Model 1886 Rifle and the Lebel Gras Model 1874/80/14 Rifle? I'm especially in the numbers "1874/80/14" and can someone tell me what they stood for? Thanks in advance!
 
Lebel was a tube magazine fed 8mmcal repeating rifle adopted in 1886.
Gras was an 11mm single shot adopted in 1874, modified in 1880 and rebarreled for the 8mm Lebel ctg in 1914.
 
Ah the french

Hello or bonjour!!

So the Gras is a single shot rifle originaly in 11 mm
the french with the urge to short supply at the firsts month of 1914 , make a 8 mm Lebel version with the old Gras 1874/80 .

if you can understand the 1874 is the model , 1880 (80) is a year of modifications , and 1914(14) the final version in 8 mm Lebel.

After some months this model was supply to rear area to olds mans to guards the railroad and others vitals communications .

I own a Lebel 1886/93 and the other Berthiers ....reload this caliber and the 11 mm Gras.

The Gras in 8 mm Lebel is a awfull weapon , i own one in the past , use to shoot at the range , definetely a temporary solution in desesperate time.

Better then nothing .
i prefer the short Lebel R-35 but , this a another story.

If you contact JP . he was in possesion of a rare version , a Chassepot 1866(Needle gun) modification in 11 mm Gras follow by reducing to 8 mm Lebel .
Amazing to see a firearm to NapoleonIII to the République .strange paradox??
 
Thank you Mauser71, that is indeed interesting, the needle gun you mentioned!! I was actually planning to purchase a Berthier and Lebel, but I knew not much about the latter so I'm not sure if the ones JP got are good buys? And the Berthier on his site, well it really looks good but why does it have a turned-down bolt? I thought they came with straight bolts? Just curious... Mind give me some suggestions? :)
 
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