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I have a dude trying to sell me a non matching No5mk1 without a flash hider,he says it's original from the factory without one.
I called BS on this one and gave him some names to check into it further and yet the seller remains adamant that it is original. I guess Skennerton really doesn't know his Enfields at all.............
 
More likely "original" from Bubba's hacksaw!;)

If the grooves are evident on the barrel from the securing pins that held the flash hider you could probably source a replacement.

If not, he is just blowing smoke.
 
we'd SURE like some PICTURES- could be anything from a real no5 with just the flashider missing to a really badly bubba'd no 4- or one of those conversions from navy arms a few years back with a bubba'd barrel
 
Close up pics would help. I think its been bubba'd or its a fakey.

courtesy of http://www.angelfire.com/nh/milarm/fakes.html

No. 5 “Jungle Carbine” Overall length 39-1/2 inches; 20-1/2 inch barrel with flash hider. Rubber buttplate; short fore-end. An honest No. 5 rifle (or “Jungle Carbine”) has lightening flutes cut in the barrel knox form and extensive milling done to the receiver to lighten it. (Take the handguard off and look for the barrel flutes.) Also, an honest No. 5 will be electro-engraved “No5MKI” on the left side of the receiver and will not have “No. 4” stamped or engraved anywhere on it. In addition, an honest No. 5 will bear the proper manufacturer’s code: “(ROF)F” for Fazakerley or “M47C” for BSA-Shirley. Finally, the barrel band will be only 8 inches in front of the receiver ring--rather than 10-3/4 inches as on a No. 4 rifle. In the 1950s and 1960s, Golden State Arms Co. of Pasadena, California modified quite a few No. 4 rifles by shortening the barrels, adding flash hiders, and shortening the fore-ends. Some were equipped with Fajen or Bishop sporter stocks, as well. These were called various names, such as “No. 4 Jungle Carbine,” or “Santa Fe Mountain Carbine,” or “Mountain Rifle,” but all have “Golden State Arms” and “Santa Fe” roll-stamped on the barrel. Nice aftermarket conversions, but strictly that. Currently, Navy Arms is doing the same thing with No. 4 rifles and selling them as “No. 5 Jungle Carbines.” At arm’s length they look genuine, but they have standard No. 4 rifle markings and DO NOT have the lightening flutes on the barrel or the lightening cuts on the receiver. These are strictly fakes--or thinly disguised “replicas.”
 
Buy the rifle, not the story. Unless he discounted it the price of a flash hider (which is combined with the front sight), walk away. If he calls you names, shrug your shoulders. You've got more friends on your side than he does.
 
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