Question: How to Reduce Vehicle/Wildlife Collisions??

Stay home?

Task at hand.
If yer behind the fruck'in steering wheel, then drive, don't pizz'round.
Haven't hit one yet.
Come real close, but due to driver awareness, made quick decisions and
dint git tuh s'pearince thuh whuuuuump.
 
I have driven with enough non hunters to know they just don't see them regardless if they are on the shoulder or 300 yards back on a fenceline. I have heard more times than I can count "how do you see them things?" or "where?, where are you looking?"
i am convinced 90% of drivers have tunnel vision when they drive that extends no more than the width of the painted lines and depth of their hood. Freaking scary!!

I was on my way to a trap shoot one morning the day after rifle deer season ended travelling hwy 11 southbound just north of the OPP detachment at Powassan. I was following a vehicle with about 300 ft separating us when off to the right about 50 yards off the highway and ahead of the vehicle ahead of me comes a whitetail buck at full run down an access road leading to the Powassan sewage lagoons. The deer jumps the fence in full flight and proceeds at full gallop to cross the highway. I am on my brakes right away anticipating the car ahead to do the same but the brake lights never came on and the car never changed speed and I watched in what seemed like slow motion as the two came together. The deers head hit the windshield on the passenger side and the chest impacted the at the door hinge taking the mirror off the car. The deer went airborne straight upward a good 8 feet off the ground before coming to rest on the yellow line in the centre of the highway where it lay kicking and thrashing. The car pulled over 200 feet or so past the deer on the shoulder. I did the same behind the people to see if they were ok. I was stunned when they said to me, "what happened?, what did we hit?" I pointed to the deer and said "that whitetail deer". They were flabbergasted. Neither had seen it coming or even knew what had run into their vehicle. I called the OPP and then proceeded to remove the deer from the centreline as two vehicles had almost hit it laying on the road. Neither saw it until the last second. The OPP let me keep it and when I got to the shoot a buddy and I dragged it down into the bush alongside the rifle range and gutted it. There wasn't even a bruise but there was one pile of blood rushed out along with tiny tidbits of lung when I cut around the diaphragm. It was a nice 4x4 or 8 point in eastern terminology but most of all it was just another confirmation as to how the average driver travelling our highways doesn't see jack #### beyond their hood!!
 
Last edited:
Time to weigh in.
1) We have to take action. We can't just let nature take it's course and allow our wildlife and citizens to injure or kill one another. It's not safe and it's bad business

2) All of the human and animal lives saved from fewer injury and insurance claims from wildlife collisions would easily save enough money to pay for the solution.

Two-part Solution

1) Drivers are charged a fee or surcharge for the animal they hit and kill. It will be paid 1/3 to the insurer & 2/3 to the wildlife department.
The fees are as follows:
a) trophy moose $2000
b) trophy elk $1500
c) trophy whitetail/mule deer $1000
d) any other moose $600
e) any other elk $500
f) any other deer $400
g) grizzly bear$3500
h) black bear $1000
i) wolf $500
j) other wildlife to be determined

With all of the money saved from fewer claims and the revenue generated from the fee/surcharge the areas with statistcally the worst collision rates will be fenced in their entirety.

How many collisions do you think we could reduce with a policy like this?? 90%-95% perhaps??
Of course the trucking firms would largely avoid claims and railways would still be killing these things en-mass but daily drivers would largely change their behaviours no?? Except perhaps the guys with Alberta plates and 100k lifted diesel trucks with metal mulisha logos and a bush bumper the size of a farm gate.
 
Last edited:
umchorn2 said:
Time to weigh in.
1) We have to take action. We can't just let nature take it's course and allow our wildlife and citizens to injure or kill one another. It's not safe and it's bad business

2) All of the human and animal lives saved from fewer injury and insurance claims from wildlife collisions would easily save enough money to pay for the solution.

Two-part Solution

1) Drivers are charged a fee or surcharge for the animal they hit and kill. It will be paid 1/3 to the insurer & 2/3 to the wildlife department.
The fees are as follows:
a) trophy moose $2000
b) trophy elk $1500
c) trophy whitetail/mule deer $1000
d) any other moose $600
e) any other elk $500
f) any other deer $400
g) grizzly bear$3500
h) black bear $1000
i) wolf $500
j) other wildlife to be determined

With all of the money saved from fewer claims and the revenue generated from the fee/surcharge the areas with statistcally the worst collision rates will be fenced in their entirety.

How many collisions do you think we could reduce with a policy like this?? 90%-95% perhaps??
Of course the trucking firms would largely avoid claims and railways would still be killing these things en-mass but daily drivers would largely change their behaviours no??
Click to expand...

nice!!!!!

another tax
 
umchorn2 said:
Time to weigh in.
1) We have to take action. We can't just let nature take it's course and allow our wildlife and citizens to injure or kill one another. It's not safe and it's bad business

2) All of the human and animal lives saved from fewer injury and insurance claims from wildlife collisions would easily save enough money to pay for the solution.

Two-part Solution

1) Drivers are charged a fee or surcharge for the animal they hit and kill. It will be paid 1/3 to the insurer & 2/3 to the wildlife department.
The fees are as follows:
a) trophy moose $2000
b) trophy elk $1500
c) trophy whitetail/mule deer $1000
d) any other moose $600
e) any other elk $500
f) any other deer $400
g) grizzly bear$3500
h) black bear $1000
i) wolf $500
j) other wildlife to be determined

With all of the money saved from fewer claims and the revenue generated from the fee/surcharge the areas with statistcally the worst collision rates will be fenced in their entirety.

How many collisions do you think we could reduce with a policy like this?? 90%-95% perhaps??
Of course the trucking firms would largely avoid claims and railways would still be killing these things en-mass but daily drivers would largely change their behaviours no?? Except perhaps the guys with Alberta plates and 100k lifted diesel trucks with metal mulisha logos and a bush bumper the size of a farm gate.
Click to expand...

I figured some sort of screwed up, twisted comment would come out of your yap. You're nothing but a troll. Back to your cave.
 
Bulkley Mouse said:
http://www.usroads.com/journals/rmj/9705/rm970504.htm

Roadside wildlife reflectors....we have sections in BC and I have seen them work but some folks may disagree.
Click to expand...

We put them on the CN right of way east of Houston (Hwy16 200 miles west of PG) which was a real hot spot for moose kills. My feeling (not a comprehensive study) was they had a positive effect for a while and then the moose started ignoring them. May work better for deer. I agree completely with driver vigilance being the first order of business. As soon as it starts to get dark we are watching the ditches as much as the road. All the kids knew the drill too. Came real close many times but noticing them early gives you that chance to miss them. Deer were always better at avoiding trains than moose, hit very few over the years. Moose, unfortunately, I lost count.
 
Last edited:
hunter148 said:
I tell all the folks that have no clue "If you see a deer on or cross the road in front of you, don't watch that deer but watch where it came from there are usually more and they want to catch up" With 2, 25 year old daughters that drive like idiots most days, it has saved them more than once.
Click to expand...

they must be twin daughters................?

I've been lucky so far, have driven many miles over the years, haven't hit one, yet, touch wood!
 
Anyone have a better idea than me?? I'm waiting...you can stop criticizing and come up with something better I can respect that.

And it's not a tax if you don't hit anything. If you do, you pay. What's the big deal. Shouldn't someone have to partially compensate the wildlife department for revenue losses due to loss of wildlife? And shouldn't they have some responsibility to insurers when they make poor or dangerous driving decisions...in this case not to slow down or remain aware of their driving conditions when in wildlife country. Why should all drivers have to pay for poor judgement of some?? Anyone??
 
umchorn2 said:
Time to weigh in.
1) We have to take action. We can't just let nature take it's course and allow our wildlife and citizens to injure or kill one another. It's not safe and it's bad business

2) All of the human and animal lives saved from fewer injury and insurance claims from wildlife collisions would easily save enough money to pay for the solution.

Two-part Solution

1) Drivers are charged a fee or surcharge for the animal they hit and kill. It will be paid 1/3 to the insurer & 2/3 to the wildlife department.
The fees are as follows:
a) trophy moose $2000
b) trophy elk $1500
c) trophy whitetail/mule deer $1000
d) any other moose $600
e) any other elk $500
f) any other deer $400
g) grizzly bear$3500
h) black bear $1000
i) wolf $500
j) other wildlife to be determined

With all of the money saved from fewer claims and the revenue generated from the fee/surcharge the areas with statistcally the worst collision rates will be fenced in their entirety.

How many collisions do you think we could reduce with a policy like this?? 90%-95% perhaps??
Of course the trucking firms would largely avoid claims and railways would still be killing these things en-mass but daily drivers would largely change their behaviours no?? Except perhaps the guys with Alberta plates and 100k lifted diesel trucks with metal mulisha logos and a bush bumper the size of a farm gate.
Click to expand...


Wow! Just Wow! You are lucky to be living in a democracy you goose stepping idiot. Count your blessings or move somewhere offshore and start your own dictatorship! Here I thought you might just let one thread slide under the normal discussion banner but no your Kim Jong mentality and reasoning has shone through once again!
 
umchorn2 said:
So what's the answer? How do we reduce the mortality of our wildlife and keep drivers safe? but what other actions or policies can we take that would result in fewer human-wildlife collisions and is it even neccessary to do anything??
Click to expand...

allow the residents of Sask to kill more game animals by hunting
longer seasons
more tags

equals less animals
 
umchorn2 said:
Anyone have a better idea than me?? I'm waiting...you can stop criticizing and come up with something better I can respect that.

And it's not a tax if you don't hit anything. If you do, you pay. What's the big deal. Shouldn't someone have to partially compensate the wildlife department for revenue losses due to loss of wildlife? And shouldn't they have some responsibility to insurers when they make poor or dangerous driving decisions...in this case not to slow down or remain aware of their driving conditions when in wildlife country. Why should all drivers have to pay for poor judgement of some?? Anyone??
Click to expand...

Again, you're trolling. Back to your cave. Your useless ramblings are growing old.
 
umchorn2 said:
Anyone have a better idea than me?? I'm waiting...you can stop criticizing and come up with something better I can respect that.

And it's not a tax if you don't hit anything. If you do, you pay. What's the big deal. Shouldn't someone have to partially compensate the wildlife department for revenue losses due to loss of wildlife? And shouldn't they have some responsibility to insurers when they make poor or dangerous driving decisions...in this case not to slow down or remain aware of their driving conditions when in wildlife country. Why should all drivers have to pay for poor judgement of some?? Anyone??
Click to expand...

First off most kindergarten kids could come up with better ideas than you. Secondly, what would be pure irony, justice and satisfaction would be for you to smoke a moose at night doing about 140 provided you can get your electric green party approved Subaru up to that kind of speed!!
 
the spank said:
Wow! Just Wow! You are lucky to be living in a democracy you goose stepping idiot. Count your blessings or move somewhere offshore and start your own dictatorship! Here I thought you might just let one thread slide under the normal discussion banner but no your Kim Jong mentality and reasoning has shone through once again!
Click to expand...

I figured he was going to suggest we round them all up and put them in small 40 acre fenced plots so that they don't get hurt...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom