Question: How to Reduce Vehicle/Wildlife Collisions??

umchorn2 said:
Anyone have a better idea than me?? I'm waiting...you can stop criticizing and come up with something better I can respect that.

And it's not a tax if you don't hit anything. If you do, you pay. What's the big deal. Shouldn't someone have to partially compensate the wildlife department for revenue losses due to loss of wildlife? And shouldn't they have some responsibility to insurers when they make poor or dangerous driving decisions...in this case not to slow down or remain aware of their driving conditions when in wildlife country. Why should all drivers have to pay for poor judgement of some?? Anyone??
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Maybe deer education would help.... can't someone teach them to avoid the roads?


Or maybe you should issue tickets to the deer for crossing in areas other than the deer crossing areas?


Both of these are just as good as your idea.
 
Daver_II said:
Maybe deer education would help.... can't someone teach them to avoid the roads?


Or maybe you should issue tickets to the deer for crossing in areas other than the deer crossing areas?


Both of these are just as good as your idea.
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Do you think that if people had to pay for their collisions with wildlife that they would change their behaviour to avoid paying and thus avoid collisions? Because human wildlife collisions are bloody out of control.
"Yes"?? or "No"??

Would a decrease in human wildlife collisions be a benefit to humans and wildlife?
Yes? or No?

If you answer yes, then we need to take action because it's a major safety issue and at $30 million a year in Saskatchewan it's getting bloody expensive already to not do anything.
 
umchorn2 said:
Do you think that if people had to pay for their collisions with wildlife that they would change their behaviour to avoid paying and thus avoid collisions? Because human wildlife collisions are bloody out of control.
"Yes"?? or "No"??

Would a decrease in human wildlife collisions be a benefit to humans and wildlife?
Yes? or No?

If you answer yes, then we need to take action because it's a major safety issue and at $30 million a year in Saskatchewan it's getting bloody expensive already to not do anything.
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People do pay for their collisions..... in repairs, insurance, etc.... Nobody wants to hit an animal.

However animals also run in front (in in some cases into the side) of vehicles. If a human jumps in front of your vehicle, (not accidentally) should you be to blame by default? or should they be responsible?

Yes a decrease would be beneficial, however adding a surcharge or fee is not helping anyone (other than allowing it to be mismanaged by government).

The real answer is passive anti-collision technology, using LIDAR, Thermal, IR sensors, etc.
likely this issue will be non-existent in the near future as technology fixes yet another problem.

The best way to avoid driving incidents is to remove the driver from the equation as much as possible.
 
umchorn2 said:
Do you think that if people had to pay for their collisions with wildlife that they would change their behaviour to avoid paying and thus avoid collisions? Because human wildlife collisions are bloody out of control.
"Yes"?? or "No"??

Would a decrease in human wildlife collisions be a benefit to humans and wildlife?
Yes? or No?

If you answer yes, then we need to take action because it's a major safety issue and at $30 million a year in Saskatchewan it's getting bloody expensive already to not do anything.
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There is a reason it's called an accident...it is unplanned. All the precautions in the world still won't prevent it including fencing them in. The week before last my neighbours 3 horses got out sometime through the night. Two of them never got to be rounded up and put back as some poor truck driver never got to finish his shift when he collided with two of them here in the pitch dark not to mention the tens of thousands of dollars damage to his rig. So who is responsible? My neighbour because his horses somehow got out? The driver because he ran into the horses and killed them? Should he be held responsible to replace the horses? Should ny neighbour be held responsible to replace the rig and the drivers wages? It's why we purchase insurance, to cover us for unforseen circumstances. If you don't like the way it is exercise your right to stay off the road.
 
Longwalker said:
I believe that most people are completely unaware that deer are present. Deer just aren't part of the world that they pay attention to. I thank my attention and training as a hunter for preventing many collisions that otherwise would have happened while I was driving. If you are unaware of the deer on the field margin or ditch, you have little chance of avoiding it if it makes a dash across.
I have pointed out many, many deer to passengers while driving, my experience is that hunters see them right away, non-hunters maybe half as quick or not at all. You can call it "situational awareness" or being in the moment, or paying attention, I think society in general is going the other way, not getting better at noticing deer.
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Absolutely...THIS. I can drive with my wife beside me and spot deer along ways off, but she won't see them unless I point them out to her. I almost hit a deer while driving to my stand one morning at 4AM in a fog @20km/hr. Never saw it coming.....
 
I grew up in antler alley - literally deer everywhere. What I taught myself to do was scan the ditches for white flashes that don't quite look like signs or approach markers. Approach markers don't move. After driving the same roads everyday for years, you get to know what should be where. Also, i stopped looking directly at oncoming headlights cause it buggers up your NV - I know that sounds dumb, but it takes thought.

Whitetails are so bloody stupid, they'll actually run toward the vehicle....
 
Deer/vehicle collisions in Saskabush may be numerous, but our friends to the south have it worse in places like West Virginia, Iowa and Pennsylvania.

Over 10% of all US deer/collision claims originate from PA. Your "odds" of hitting a deer there are estimated by the Insurance Co. underwriters are 1:67 and the
odds nearly double to 1:32 in October, November & December. The odds of a deer/vehicle collision in WV are even greater, about 1.41 year-round and 1.20 during
the same 3 month fall period, however, the overall number of collisions is less. The average deer/vehicle collision claim is $ 4,000 +/-. Road killed deer last year totalled some
126,275 animals on some 402,000 km of PA roads. PA Hunters take some 350,000 deer/per annum. Deer herd over 1.4 million animals.

Some of the recommendations from the Insurance Industry are:

Slow down...be aware
Stay alert & vigilant ... avoid distractions
Buckle-up, always
High Beams at night with no oncoming traffic.
Brake, but avoid swerving ... hitting the deer is often preferable to running off the road or into another vehicle
Deer often travel in groups ... there may be more than one
Pay attention to Deer Crossing signs ... usually a greater locational risk
"Deer whistles" have not proven successful to avoid collisions
 
Situational awareness doesn't apply to the rural roads exclusively. Several years ago a buddy was driving to work and there was construction in the middle lane of Nairn Ave in Winnipeg. He watched a car drive through the barricades and then drop 4 feet into the excavated roadway, all without a brake light coming on. The driver was sleepdriving. When he got to the window, the gal was on the phone to her husband saying "honey, I think I drove the car into a hole"

There's more than just a few people not paying attention to the road in front of them. I figure that about 25% of the cars that pass me have a cell phone down on their lap and are texting away. That might have something to do with the numbers, too
 
You want to decrease the animal/vehicle collision rate and save the animals do you? Then fence in the humans, have them give up cars, moving around and existing. Have then swallow the blue pill and hook them to the Matrix. Then the machine can milk us for sustenance and existence and the animals will be spared... but never let us get the red pill, because then the animals are doomed...
 
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