This might seems a stupid question to some, but I'm just getting into personal shooting, been shooting rifles, shotguns and pistols for over 20 years at work. I'm looking to train on my own time with 'trigger time' at the range to keep my skills up. Especially on the pistol. We use the h&k p2000 at work, but I don't really want to own that pistol, too expensive and difficult to get parts and such. So, in the 9mm, I'm looking for a good pistol that is akin to the p2000, budget is also an issue, I'd really like to keep price around 500 as opposed to a thousand bucks. Thoughts?
Question. M&p vs Glock in 9mm
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I have both Glocks in 9 and the M&P 9. I like the look and feel of the M&P more, and price new is better than a Glock 17/19.
However, I feel the overall quality and reliability is better with my Glocks (it's why I have a gen 4 and 5 17, and gen 4 19/21/22), and why I tend to train with those. I spent a weekend with my 19 recently and loved it--very fun to shoot.
Given how cheap second hand Gen 4s are hitting the market, you can get a lightly used 17 for not much more than 500. M&P range kits are less still--I sold one of mine for 400.
If you plan on only ever owning one gun, I'd get the Glock, as I suspect it would last you forever. Ultimately, you probably can't go wrong either way.
However, I feel the overall quality and reliability is better with my Glocks (it's why I have a gen 4 and 5 17, and gen 4 19/21/22), and why I tend to train with those. I spent a weekend with my 19 recently and loved it--very fun to shoot.
Given how cheap second hand Gen 4s are hitting the market, you can get a lightly used 17 for not much more than 500. M&P range kits are less still--I sold one of mine for 400.
If you plan on only ever owning one gun, I'd get the Glock, as I suspect it would last you forever. Ultimately, you probably can't go wrong either way.
Are you a member of a range, or is there a rental range nearby? Best option is to try and fire both before you decide if possible, in the case of the Glock, firing both a 19 and a 17 would be a good idea. Either of your choices are excellent, dependable guns with lots of support for parts, holsters etc, so it's going to come down to which you prefer the feel of, perhaps if you state your location a local CGN'er might step up and let you try theirs out before you purchase.
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What edgy said.
You can usually find a used M&P for less than a used Glock. Your $500 price is doable but will be a used gun. Glocks and M&Ps go fast at that price range. The only thing both guns could benefit from is a trigger upgrade. Then again, you shoot the P2000 at work so likely Fed Corrections? That DAO pull is even heavier then any Glock or M&P!
I own both brands and I rotate them when I shoot. The M&P has a slight edge as I like the magwell design for quick snag free mag changes and it has the slide auto drop feature ( which may or may not be a design flaw?) which speeds up mag change times. My Gen 2 and Gen 3 Glocks don’t drop the slide predictably.
You can usually find a used M&P for less than a used Glock. Your $500 price is doable but will be a used gun. Glocks and M&Ps go fast at that price range. The only thing both guns could benefit from is a trigger upgrade. Then again, you shoot the P2000 at work so likely Fed Corrections? That DAO pull is even heavier then any Glock or M&P!
I own both brands and I rotate them when I shoot. The M&P has a slight edge as I like the magwell design for quick snag free mag changes and it has the slide auto drop feature ( which may or may not be a design flaw?) which speeds up mag change times. My Gen 2 and Gen 3 Glocks don’t drop the slide predictably.
Handle them all if you can and decide for yourself which feels best in your hand. There's a world of difference in my opinion between the G17 and 19, and the M&P is also entirely different. The modern versions of all of them come with interchangeable back straps to fine tune the fit as well. But in my opinion, functionally they're all the same, pieces of Tupperware that are boringly reliable and will far outlast most shooters.
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Aftermarket parts are something to look into as well, such as holster, mag pouches, magazines, spare parts, etc. Both the M&P and Glock seem to have fairly developed aftermarket part availability as well, so not much of a deal breaker either way. I may be biased, but I do like my Glock quite a bit but it has been a while since I've fired a M&P.
If it comes down to price then the M&P will undoubtedly win, but I would advise you to get some trigger time or at least handle them at your local shop before deciding.
If it comes down to price then the M&P will undoubtedly win, but I would advise you to get some trigger time or at least handle them at your local shop before deciding.
When I got my RPAL I came down to the same options.
I did my research and on paper Glock came first.
I shoot them both and I bought M&P9 M2.0 the same day.
Now I have them both but I still more accurate with M&P as i think its grip is more natural for the way i shoot.
But I am sure I will get used to Glock eventually, not a big deal, just practice.
Cheers.
I did my research and on paper Glock came first.
I shoot them both and I bought M&P9 M2.0 the same day.
Now I have them both but I still more accurate with M&P as i think its grip is more natural for the way i shoot.
But I am sure I will get used to Glock eventually, not a big deal, just practice.
Cheers.
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This question had to have been asked at least a million times.
It is all personal preference. I've only shot the mp9 2.0 out of the S&W's. I hated the grip texture, way too rough, made shooting less enjoyable for me.
A plus for glock is they have big stick 33rd stick mags aswell as drums. Although Canada sucks, it'll make for fun trips down south or shtf. Also easier to get the smaller glock's with Canada barrels. I enjoy smaller pistols more.
Pretty much everything else is preference. They are almost equal overall imho. I'd like to try the s&w's first gen's without the sh*tty new grip texture.
It is all personal preference. I've only shot the mp9 2.0 out of the S&W's. I hated the grip texture, way too rough, made shooting less enjoyable for me.
A plus for glock is they have big stick 33rd stick mags aswell as drums. Although Canada sucks, it'll make for fun trips down south or shtf. Also easier to get the smaller glock's with Canada barrels. I enjoy smaller pistols more.
Pretty much everything else is preference. They are almost equal overall imho. I'd like to try the s&w's first gen's without the sh*tty new grip texture.
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I like them both, they both shoot well for me. That being said the M&P has always come first in ergos for me, I’d find a shop local to me and hold both. Better yet if you have a range that does rentals near you, actually shoot them both.
I've owned 6 Glocks and 3 M&P's - the gun currently in my safe is an M&P with 56K rounds through it. I've never put more than 5 or so thousand through a Glock. I keep buying them to try and find out if they've made them feel any better yet, and the answer is always the same. Before the experts jump in to say that it's not about feel, or that you can train around the Glock's ergonomic short comings, I'm fully aware of that. The question is, why should I? As far as durability, accuracy, availability of parts, accessories (if you're into that) etc. goes, they're a coin toss. Glocks have a better trigger reset, M&P's are easier to reload fast, M&P's "need" trigger work, Glocks "need" real sights. Handle both, shoot both, decide which compromises you're better off with.
I have and shoot both M&P and Glocks.
I have found that the fact that a gun feels more comfortable does not mean it shoots better for me.
And if the gun has a choice of backstrap size, the size that feels best may not shoot the best.
So, if possible, borrow or rent the two models and shoot them to see which give you the best results.
Trouble is that if you are new at this, you may not be able to shoot well enough to see any difference.
I have found that the fact that a gun feels more comfortable does not mean it shoots better for me.
And if the gun has a choice of backstrap size, the size that feels best may not shoot the best.
So, if possible, borrow or rent the two models and shoot them to see which give you the best results.
Trouble is that if you are new at this, you may not be able to shoot well enough to see any difference.
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This is very true, the first time I was buying a pistol I rented my top three picks. Glock17, Ppq and M&P, the M&P won strictly on ergos. The glock shot equally as well as the M&P but it felt like a block of LEGO in my hand, fast forward to the first pistol class I took. At the end of the second day I got to shoot a glock17 and it was a totally different gun in my hands, knowing some fundamentals made me realize if I buy another polymer pistol it will be a glock. I still love the M&P, the ergos are great and it’s an accurate shooter if I do my part.
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I prefer the M&P 2.0.
Ergonomic comfort great stipple job on them for grip. And a great trigger out of the box. 3000 rounds through mine and not 1 failure so far from any factory ammo.
Ergonomic comfort great stipple job on them for grip. And a great trigger out of the box. 3000 rounds through mine and not 1 failure so far from any factory ammo.
I have training with the Glock and the M&P. I have yet to decide which is better and which I prefer. Here is my opinion of pros and cons,
I won't speak to the trigger pull because I have only used the sh!tty new York triggers on both guns
M&P Pro:
-better grip, I find it thinner than glock and has more texture
-mags drop free better and are typically metal
-much easier to slam the mag in and the slide goes forward
-range kit exist
-generally cheaper. That range kit is a good deal
Cons:
-does not look as cool as glock
-harder to take apart. First world problem but it is con to me
-had 1 stoppage in the 2 days of training I had with it. We were using remanufactured ammo though
-the hinge trigger feels weird at first
Glock Pros:
-accessories galore and are available in Canada
-mags are cheaper
-looks cooler than the M&P
-had 0 stoppages in the 10 days of training with it.
-trigger safety is nicer only by comparison to the M&P. once use to the M&P its a tie
Cons
-wider grip. Its not awful but it is wider
-overpriced. 800 is insane to me
-Kinda boring because basically everyone has one
Its a tough call in my opinion. I would not call either a poor choice
I won't speak to the trigger pull because I have only used the sh!tty new York triggers on both guns
M&P Pro:
-better grip, I find it thinner than glock and has more texture
-mags drop free better and are typically metal
-much easier to slam the mag in and the slide goes forward
-range kit exist
-generally cheaper. That range kit is a good deal
Cons:
-does not look as cool as glock
-harder to take apart. First world problem but it is con to me
-had 1 stoppage in the 2 days of training I had with it. We were using remanufactured ammo though
-the hinge trigger feels weird at first
Glock Pros:
-accessories galore and are available in Canada
-mags are cheaper
-looks cooler than the M&P
-had 0 stoppages in the 10 days of training with it.
-trigger safety is nicer only by comparison to the M&P. once use to the M&P its a tie
Cons
-wider grip. Its not awful but it is wider
-overpriced. 800 is insane to me
-Kinda boring because basically everyone has one
Its a tough call in my opinion. I would not call either a poor choice
