Question on magazine size for .22LR

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From what I have been able to determine from doing my own research on the gun laws, there seems to be no restrictions on hi-cap mags for .22 rimfires. Is this correct ? I would rather not have to call the CFC for such a simple question.

My wife was never really into firearms until I suprised her with an HK416D in .22LR and she really loves it. She likes to plink with it when I am shooting my black rifles at the range. I have finally found some of the 30 round mags, but need to figure out if they are legal here in Canada.

I've gotten a couple of questions about this rifle so I'll just save some time and throw this out there now. It is based on HK's full sized 416 model and licensed for production and made by Carl Walther in Germany. Umarex is the importer down in the states (bought it when we were living in Texas).

Fun as heck and pretty darn accurate. My wife has no problem hitting a 3" and 4" swinger at 50 yards using a knock-off Aimpoint M4. :ar15: But the 20 round mags go quick, so a few 30 rounders would be awesome.

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10 round limit applies ONLY to pistols.

Everything else you can have as much as you want.
 
Er... not quite... 5-round limit applies to semi-auto centrefire rifles (unless it takes a pistol mag, in which case the pistol mag capacity wins). I don't think there's a limit on rimfire. (next guy will correct me, to keep the pattern going :)
 
sulisa said:
Er... not quite... 5-round limit applies to semi-auto centrefire rifles (unless it takes a pistol mag, in which case the pistol mag capacity wins). I don't think there's a limit on rimfire. (next guy will correct me, to keep the pattern going :)
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Centrefire rifles - 5rds
Centrefire pistols - 10rds
Rimfire pistols - 10rds
Rimfire rifles (as long as they're non-restricted, afik) - no limit
 
Hey SATX~as I understand it... As long as those 30rd. magazines CAN NOT fit into/function with a pistol, they should be legal in Canada. If there was a restricted version (ie, under 26" or pistol) of that rifle, they would likely be a no-go. If the 30 rounders are unique to the gun, they should be OK.

I don't have my restricted license, so I'm no that familiar with the laws governing restricted "black" .22 rifles, but I think yours IS restricted here in Canada. Not sure if that complicates the mag capacity rules or not.

So yeah..it's becoming clear that I should have stayed out of this conversation. : )
 
Thanks Guys......:p Looks like a few calls are in order to confirm. We just moved back to Ontario in Aug. and all of my firearms are in a gun vault at a family member's house outside of Buffalo until I get my PAL/R and ATT stuff completed. Since I had to declare everything I was bringing, including the goods to follow, this was on the separate list I provided to CBSA and they had no issues with it, although I realize they are not the ones that set the gun laws.

Man I think I'll really be missing those 30round P-mags for the AR's before long. That was one thing about I loved about Texas. Liberal gun laws.

Will post a definitive answer when I get one.f:P:2:
 
AWOL said:
^^^This is key...

A restricted firearm with a .22LR rimfire kit is still restricted and therefore must use rifle mags limited to 5 rounds or pistol mags limited to 10 rounds.
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Actually it's not a kit. The upper does come apart from the lower for cleaning, but the upper will not fit on an AR15 lower and the lower cannot be mated to an AR15 upper. They do however sell this in a pistol version so maybe I'm not screwed anyways.....?!

http://www.hk22rimfire.com/index.php?page=416-pistol
 
SATX said:
They do however sell this in a pistol version so maybe I am screwed anyways.....?!
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If the magazine is specified as a pistol mag, then you are limited to 10 rds. This was the case with the M&P15-22. Once they came out with the pistol version that uses the same magazine, the 25 round magazines were classified as prohib devices. Interestingly, Butler Creek sells large capacity magazines advertised for the 10/22. They will work in the Ruger Charger pistol but they don't state that they are designed for it so you can still use them in the rifle and SR-22 non-restricted.
 
For the AR, you can use LAR-15 mags that come in 10rds and you can use a coupler to connect 2. Better than being stuck with 5rds as most centre-fire semiautos are (thanks for the correction Dakk)
 
AWOL said:
^^^This is key...

A restricted firearm with a .22LR rimfire kit is still restricted and therefore must use rifle mags limited to 5 rounds or pistol mags limited to 10 rounds.
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Where does this stuff come from? The classification of the rifle has nothing to do with it. Mags designed for centerfire semi's are limited to 5 rounds. All pistol mags are limited to 10 rounds. ALL mags designed for rimfire rifles have no capacity limits.


Mark
 
mmattockx said:
Where does this stuff come from? The classification of the rifle has nothing to do with it. Mags designed for centerfire semi's are limited to 5 rounds. All pistol mags are limited to 10 rounds. ALL mags designed for rimfire rifles have no capacity limits.

Mark
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Bingo. This is correct, some of the other things people above have said is simply false
 
SATX said:
Actually it's not a kit. The upper does come apart from the lower for cleaning, but the upper will not fit on an AR15 lower and the lower cannot be mated to an AR15 upper. They do however sell this in a pistol version so maybe I'm not screwed anyways.....?!

http://www.hk22rimfire.com/index.php?page=416-pistol
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Yah it appears that there is a "pistol" version therefore only 10 rounders :(
 
luke s said:
Yah it appears that there is a "pistol" version therefore only 10 rounders :(
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Bummer. Looks like I will be selling the old mags before completing the importation of all my guns. There are few things I will miss about living in the states, but the gun laws are apparently going to be one of them........:ang
 
AWOL said:
Only for a while. Obama & the UN will soon trash the rights of American's.
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Having dual citizenship, I made sure to do my part through an absentee ballot to help ensure that doesn't happen. Lot's of people still drinking the kool-aid down there though....:bangHead:
 
AWOL said:
^^^This is key...

A restricted firearm with a .22LR rimfire kit is still restricted and therefore must use rifle mags limited to 5 rounds or pistol mags limited to 10 rounds.
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Um...no. Restricted/Non-restricted has NOTHING to do with it. It is HANDGUNS only that are limited to 10. It just so happends that all handguns (that are not prohib) are restricted. If you have a rifle that is restricted you can have as many rounds in the mag as you want as long as it's rimfire and the mag is not intended for a pistol.
 
Just took the courses last week.

centerfire, semi auto rifle, 5 round.

pistol, 10 round.

rimfire,no limit.

as well its the mag that is limited, not the weapon. Therefore, LAR (pistol)mags that fit in an AR platform, while still a centerfire semi auto, CAN use this 10 round PISTOL mag.

But, again, rimfire, no mag cap limit.
 
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