Question regarding the Winchester Model 100

gunrunner100 said:
I have firing pins in stock.
I have done close to 100 of the firing pin recalls over close to 30 years.
If you are able, take the action out of the stock and try to rotate the firing pin. If it rotates and is free and not bound into the bolt carrier, it is an original pin and should be changed.
I have seen pins so gnarled that they had to be punched out of the carrier. The possibility of a full auto is slight, but possible.


Used to be $20 US, now it's $30.
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Called Winchester today and left a message for Erika in their Recall dept. Not heard back yet.
 
Elkbooger said:
My number is higher. 1125xx which translated to 1965. So yours is older and possibly more valuable.
Someone here in CGN will know better. ..
I found a contact at Winchester via a Google search about the recall. She checked the serial number against their records and said it hadn't been done, (and registered by a participating smithy anyway). As such, she said it qualfied and to send her the current pin and they sent me a replacement free of charge. This was within the last 2 years.
She said they still had parts as it was a safety recall. Something about the specific manufacture window would cause the pin to release unexpectedly or in a few cases go full auto...
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"That's not a bug, it's a feature."
 
The pre 64s are easy to tell from the post 64s at least if they are sporting their original Winchester factory stocks.
The pre's have cut checkering and the posts have embossed scroll work on the forearm and tang cheeks.
I have owned both and now own a pristine pre made in 1961 when they started making the model 100.
The serial # on mine is 4 digit and that makes it one of the first 100s ever made.
The model 88 (lever) predates the model 100 (semi). Winchester started building those in 1955.
They both ceased production in 1973.
A model 88 all things being equal fetches considerably more money than a 100 in my experience.
 
Changing the firing pin is a piece of cake once you know how to take the rifle apart. Here's a very good video of how to disassemble..


And reassemble


On a pre-64 model a friend of mine has, when putting the rifle back into the stock it is necessary to also pull the mag release to get it back in. Not sure if this is the case with all pre-64s but on the post-64s I've done it was not..

I have never had a jamming issue with mine, but there is a common problem associated with jamming is bent trigger guard housing rails. This can happen by trying to take the rifle apart incorrectly but can be easily fixed if the damage is not too bad, I had to fix my dad's 100 due to this and it has functioned flawlessly since.

Lots of good info here
http://www.leeroysramblings.com/Gun Articles/winchester_model_88_100_info.html

Parts diagram
http://www.leeroysramblings.com/Gun parts illustrations/winchester_M100_illustrated.html
 
I have done one. I am not a smith but am somewhat handy with tools and I had no problems doing the job. The hardest part for me was putting the barreled action back into the stock without marring the stock finish. Incidentally, mine shoots pretty well, maybe two inches at 100 yds. Not great but ok. At one time there were ten round magazines available for those that felt the factory mags didn't hold enough rounds :). If you can find one now it would most likely be pretty spendy.
 
My pre 64 m100 hasn't jammed yet with any factory or hand loads I've tried (knock on wood).
I strip and clean it every year.
Takes about 1/2 hr to do a thorough job with crappy tire brake parts cleaner (dechlorinated) after you've done it a couple of times.
Don't forget to relubricate after stripping and cleaning because the brake cleaner removes all the old oil.
Here's where some go wrong and drown the gun in oil.
All you need is 2 or 3 drops worked into the action by cycling it.
If you split the stock Boyds sells replacements.
That gun has taken 7 moose to my knowledge and we stopped counting the deer felled by it at 11.
 
reomack said:
I have done one. I am not a smith but am somewhat handy with tools and I had no problems doing the job. The hardest part for me was putting the barreled action back into the stock without marring the stock finish. Incidentally, mine shoots pretty well, maybe two inches at 100 yds. Not great but ok. At one time there were ten round magazines available for those that felt the factory mags didn't hold enough rounds :). If you can find one now it would most likely be pretty spendy.
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Not to mention illegal.
 
Still alive said:
Still playing phone tag with Erika from Winchester!
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If you're trying to find out of the recall has been done, you can check yourself if you have the gun..

New firing pin looks like this
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original
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Thanks Joe,
I have the rifle but I really don’t want to bung it up. I normally shoot ARs and Glocks. This rifle seems to have a few more steps to take apart! Not to mention it looks like it hasn’t been shot in 30 years.

Once I get get confirmation of its status and they send me the pin, then I’ll take it to a gunsmith to have the updated pin put in.
Then I’ll likely sell it. Anyone want a M100 real cheap?:p
 
gunrunner100 said:
Colyer marketed the magazines for both the 88 and 100, and by doing so, made them illegal in this country for use in the Model 100.
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Nothing to do with what you use it in. If made for a semi-auto centrefire long gun a magazine with a capacity of more than five rounds is a prohibited device. You don't even have to possess a gun that it fits, possession of the prohibited device is a criminal offence regardless of whether you use it or not.
 
When these guns were new two friends had respectively a M88 and a M100. Neither shot them much so I don't remember if jamming was a problem, although this was the general opinion of them. With the heavy trigger pull they were not noted for accuracy.
With respect to the American prices mentioned they reduce to $400 to $500 when converted to Canadian currency. Don't know why anyone would want one other than as a curiosity with so many better guns now available.

Jim
 
reomack said:
The hardest part for me was putting the barreled action back into the stock without marring the stock finish.
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I can second that. It is a job that needs a 'third hand' to hold back the magazine release. First time before I got the hang of it I had a moment
when I realized that I was going have to let something go and it was a choice of marring the stock or lose some skin.........chose the latter but it was just a flesh
wound. All good now. :)
 
TheTooner said:
Nothing to do with what you use it in. If made for a semi-auto centrefire long gun a magazine with a capacity of more than five rounds is a prohibited device. You don't even have to possess a gun that it fits, possession of the prohibited device is a criminal offence regardless of whether you use it or not.
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When I said that Colyer marketed the magazine for both rifles, had they said it was for the 88 only, it would be legal to possess in this country, regardless if it fit the semi-automatic 100.
 
gunrunner100 said:
When I said that Colyer marketed the magazine for both rifles, had they said it was for the 88 only, it would be legal to possess in this country, regardless if it fit the semi-automatic 100.
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Yes, if they made, marked, sold it for only the lever action and it fit and worked in the semi-auto, it wouldn't be prohibited.

I thought your statement could be misinterpreted to mean they would be illegal only if used in the semi-auto. I wanted to clarify that you don't have to use a prohibited magazine to commit an offense, just possessing it is enough. I think we both understand that if the magazines were functionally and structurally identical but only marked as fitting the Model 88 then even though they also worked in the Model 100 it would now be legal to possess them and to use them in a 100?
 
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