Question: What do honest groups look like.???

Here are two groups shot today using my Custom Tactical rifle built on a Remington 700 - shot at 300m using a load made up last week for my F-Class rifle. Fed singly ( too long for the mag ) but at a decent pace. Top one measures 1.4 while the bottom one is 1.7 so just either side of half MOA. Scope was a Sightron 8-32x56 LRMOA. These two represent the average - a couple of groups were tighter and a couple were looser ( blame the nut behind the stock kinda bad )

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I mainly shoot 2 rifles ( 308 and 223 )for groups with a lot of load devellopement, this from left to right is from good to average, i almost alway use a 10 shots group... JP.
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Ten consecutive groups ...not cherry picked... each "set" shot on a different day under different conditions. All 5 shot groups at 100M off the bench. My latest 30BR.

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Went out tonight and shot the 6br at 700 yards. I'm really happy with this group even though the one shot was way high and left.

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Is it wierd that I am happy with 10 rounds on a 5" group at 100yds?

I hear you.
I just got back into shooting this year. With a .22 Anschutz 64.
And my rifle is a lot better than me, so when I have the same results as you I am pleased.
Room for improvement, yes, but in keeping everything in proper prospective it will get better in time.
 
Went out tonight and shot the 6br at 700 yards. I'm really happy with this group even though the one shot was way high and left.

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I would be more worried about that shot "low and right" :)

When testing for F class at LR, I use a digi camcorder. Let's me see the group form real time on a LCD monitor AND tapes the group. With notes, you can correlate what is happening with the air AND the gun.



This is a 300m group I shot with my FTR rig with my Raton, NM load. This was to confirm my load tuning and accuracy after alot of shooting. The 2nd shot was a missed wind call. Shot 4 was aimed lower to confirm vertical - shot went where I aimed. Keep the video file and your target and notes. Now you can replay and understand what was happening instead of a bunch of holes in a target. {video sped up but you can still hear the wind blowing}

Although the entire group is still nice, knowing where each shot went really tells you more about what was actually happening. Maybe one shot was out due to wind or you called a pulled shot upon release. Maybe really didn't go where you were expecting despite a good shoot release. I find viewing the group critical to understanding and correcting my load tuning - you can do the same thing with a spotting scope at shorter distance. just mark each shot on a target and note anything wonky.

After sending dozens of rds downrange, you aren't likely to remember what where and why. Now you have a perfectly good load with an "out" and you dismiss that load forgetting that you did heave the trigger or had bad form or you saw the wind gust through on that shot.

At LR, it is rare to get picture perfect groups unless you are good at reading the wind and have proper wind indicators. So understanding where the core of the group is vs the 'outs' that might be condition related can help narrow down best loads quicker.

Repeating the results is critical and here shooting for score on a marked target tells the real truth.

Jerry
 
I have chambered a couple of 30BR's and they both shoot well for me, albeit, I am not a BR or competion shooter. My reamer has a .330 NK and "0" freebore. I have mostly shot 115 Berger FB with 33.8 gr of H4198 out of 24" Krieger barrels which produces 2960 fps. Both barrels average 0.3" groups at 100M with me driving. They are switch barrels on Barnard S actions. The machining on the Barnards is so close, that I can interchange either barrel with any of my three actions. I also interchange stocks and have a Robertson Long range Hunter, a Reiben, a Sako Varmint, and a Rem VLS that I switch out. Actually, I am just doing a barrel break-in on another 30 BR with a light Palma barrel ...
 
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