question with the ar 15

daniellybbert

daniellybbert

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Im really wanting and going to buy my first ar 15 my 180b got me hooked
Im looking at the stag arms or the rock river (mostly stag) but im wondering what the pros and cons are of buying one with the carry handle (keep in mind i havent even shot one)
can i detach the handle and mount a scope or euotec or can i mount a scope on the handle
I think I know what else I want on a ar for stock options but what else is there that is a must fo ar after market parts
please exuse the stupid noob questions any other input is appreciated (I hate cheesey over kill)
Thanx Daniel
 
buy the stag, there have been some stories of the RRA not being 100% mil spec.

get a flat top model,A3 or A4. that way you can decide on what to put there. don't buy an A2(carry handle permanent) with the carry handle you are pertty much stuck on what you can do.
 
P0WERWAGON said:
buy the stag, there have been some stories of the RRA not being 100% mil spec.

get a flat top model,A3 or A4. that way you can decide on what to put there. don't buy an A2(carry handle permanent) with the carry handle you are pertty much stuck on what you can do.
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+1 Solid Advice.
 
What does 100% milspec matter though if he's only going to fire it at the range?
He said he hasn't shot one and didn't indicate that he wants to add on every addition known to man, maybe just a different sighting system if he wants.

I think there is a bit too much emphasis put on the 100% milspec thing rather than good kit that fills the needs of the user.

Having said that, yes, get a flat top if you want to mount optics. It will make it easier than mounting optics on a fixed carry handle where you may have cheek-weld troubles depending on the mount or scope. The dealers on this board can supply you with either option and if you look in this particular sub-forum in depth it will help you quite a bit.

I'd suggest you look for posters such as Sparrow, Kevin B.and Koldt as a start.
 
recce said:
What does 100% milspec matter though if he's only going to fire it at the range?

I think there is a bit too much emphasis put on the 100% milspec thing rather than good kit that fills the needs of the user.
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it's just that if he does get bitten by the AR bug, then he'll probly start adding stuff to his rifle. quality parts are made to a spec. i have heard of some issues with rifles that are not 100% spec that woun't accecpt some accessories. EG FF rail that won't fit because reciver is .020" too tall.
 
If you seriously want to mount a "scope" on the AR15 you will also want a detachable front sight as well.

The AR15 definitely feels higher quality when compared to the ar180b, but cleaning it is more of a chore :p

I'm taking my 180B out to the range tomorrow morning... looking forward to some piston action ;)
 
I changed over to a flat top upper on my Armalite. It gives you a lot more options, IMO, for the mounting of optics. There's plenty of quality detachable rear sights, including carry handle types, for when you want to use iron sights.
 
Get the Stag -- Colt parts at a non Colt price.... I've had both Stag uppers and Lower and was impressed.

The only time I would get a flip up front is if I where planning on using in-line Night vision with it -- scopes over 3x will ghost out the fixed front. Secondly most of the flip front sight gas block combo's (especially the Picatinny gas blocks). IF you want a flip front get it rail mounted on a quality rail.

My typical advice to all new AR people is to buy a Armalite MidLength - they are the most versatile rifle around (If Stag made a mid-length I would recommened it).
 
stag makes a 16 inch barrel isnt that mid length
as for accesories I want to be able to put a vertical grip maybe a light and a scope thats pretty much it ( i think )
 
Daniel, the midlength concept puts the front sight base about 1 1/2 inches further up the barrel on a 16 inch rifle resulting in slightly lower operating pressures/speed. The term refers to the length of the gas tube rather than the barrel, between a carbine length and a rifle length.

Stag manufactures carbine and rifle length components. Their parent companys bread and butter has been fleet rebuilds/overhauls for DOD, so no call to start manufacturing midlength handguards and gas tubes.

To your original question, all Stag rifles are flattops, the difference between the 1R and 2R is which sight system is attached. My recomendation is to save a few bucks and get a 2R with the ARMS40 BUIS. We sell more detachable CH models though.

Hope that helps,
DT
 
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