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So I was at the shooting range testing my tikka hunter in .308 using portuguese surplus 7.62mm ammo. One guy comes up to me and says I shouldn't use military ammo in this hunting rifle since my rifle might blow up (high pressure of military ammo). I'm thinking that he's talking BS...
Just want to make sure with you guys.
 
It's backwards. The civil ammo (308 Win) is loaded hotter than the military one (7.62x51). Just shoot it, no worries. The Portugese one is about the most accurate milsurp. one can get in Canada...
 
RevolverRodger said:
One guy comes up to me and says I shouldn't use military ammo in this hunting rifle since my rifle might blow up


Thank gawd for these dispensers of unsolicited advice...
 
Better tell that guy not to drive his car either. That steel tank in the back end contains a highly volatile liquid. It might get in his engine for that matter and cause a explosive fire. Come to think of it, if any gets on his clothes he'll stink and his wife might order him out of the house! Think of the domestic distress he'd bring upon himself.
 
It actually is possible to do but only if your firearm has a bare minumun sammi spec chamber. Here is a explanation of it taken from this link http://carnival.saysuncle.com/002453.html

Now let's look at the other side of the coin - insufficient headspace:

Let's say we have a brand new .308 Winchester rifle with a minimum headspace chamber. It measures at 1.630". We find a deal on some Mil-Surp 7.62x51mm NATO ammo & go to the range. Ammo that averages at 1.6315" will be a very, very tight fit in a 1.630" chambered rifle. Too tight in fact. If you are able to chamber the cartridge you will have higher than normal pressures. Given a few other variables this could result in redlining the chamber pressure & having the rifle self disassemble a few inches from your face. If it's an autoloader then there's a real good chance you'll have a slam fire (where the cartridge fires as the bolt lock up without any desire for it to do so on your part) or an out of battery fire (where the cartridge fires before the bolt is locked) which will cause a self disassembling firearm to materialize in your hands. .0015" is a very big deal when you lack that much space.

Of course the above scenario could happen with .308 Winchester ammo that's larger than average, but it's not as likely as encountering 7.62x51mm NATO ammo that would create insufficient headspace.

So the two cartridges should not be automatically considered interchangeable even though the cartridges themselves are very close to each other. The headspace difference of the rifle's they are chambered for is what makes some combinations dangerous.

So it is possible but unlikely. Its probably a better chance that the too large chamber on a 7.62 rifle will cause a case rupture on a .308 cartridge
 
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The way it was explaned to me was to remember it like .38sp and .357mag

7.62 is like the .38 and .308 is like .357.

only 7.62 ammo in 7.62 guns, but 7.62 and .308 are ok in .308 guns.
 
"...It actually is possible..." Nonsense. They're the same thing. They've been the same thing ever since they were developed at the same time in the mid 50's.
 
Well, I am taking 2 rifles to Bisley next month, both are .308's. The issued ammo will be RG 7.62 with 155 gr RG bullets. There are 19 other people on the team that are all taking .308 rifles. We will all be shooting RG 7.62 ammo.
Canadians have been taking .308's to shoot at the Imperial Meeting in the UK since the 7.62 was introduced. Hundreds of thousands of 7.62 rounds have been fired from .308 rifles. One would think if it was dangerous the NRA UK would not allow this to happen, and the UK Gov't would ban .308 rifles from shooting 7.62.
 
The pressure limit for NATO spec 7.62x51 is 50,000 cup. The pressure limit for .308 Winchester is 60,000 cup. Case capacities tend to be smaller in 7.62 due to a thicker case web. Neither should blow up the other since most actions are designed to function with much higher pressure limits. Brass life will vary before bad things happen.
 
I wouldn't be too surprised if the specs for military and commercial 30/06 varied a bit too. Nobody obsesses over it though. Mostly those who do spout off about the difference between 7.62 and 308 are those who place way too much emphasis on trivia.
By the way, every semi auto rifle I know of cannot fire "out of battery". They also will not slamfire because of a tight cartridge. In order for this to happen they would have to fire "out of battery". Neat story but mostly BS. Tight headspace also does not increase pressure. A too short throat will; but not negative headspace. Regards, Bill
 
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