Questions about a colt .41 SAA I came across

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I have confirmed it’s an antique and has never had the smokeless powder conversion but other then that don’t know much about value? And do I need a letter from the rcmp saying it’s antique? I think I do plan on selling.

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Looks as if this is made in 1896, just before the cut off. Value depends on mechanical condition as well. The finish is worn. As to value, no idea. The caliber is not very desirable. I'd say this one was polished and scratched up. Don't pay too much.
 
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Get a letter from Colt it’s worth the $150. Between that and the serial number you should be fine. I highly doubt anyone ever converted a “no go” caliber to 41 Colt.

As far as value is concerned more pictures would be required. From what I can see grips look original by the way they fit, to be sure you can take the grip panels off and they should have the last 4 digits of the serial number scratched inside. Bottom of the gun looks like it has pounded a few fence staples in.

How are all the screw heads? Does the cylinder pin have a small hole in the front? A picture of the hammer knurling would be needed as well. Is there any * or & stamps on it? How’s the play on the cylinder and end-shake? Have you shot it?

There is lots at play, more pics are required.
 
Ok thanks , i will take more pics when im home in a couple days , screw heads look good , 2 look like they may be replacements . seems fairly in usable condition, never shot it, some old reloading stuff did come with it tho. not sure about the other stuff till im home .
 
That’s a hard one to ask an an even harder one to answer. In the past year I’ve seen a good half dozen come and sell here and online. The last one on OldGunsCanada was listed in a sneak peak email at $6900 (mind you a more desirable caliber and some sort of finish) and it never made it to the website as far as I could tell, which means it sold overnight at that asking (plus tax)

The last one I saw listed on antiquegunacanada was .41LC and a little more finish, same barrel listed around that $6500 mark (if I remember correctly) and sold after a couple weeks.

There’s been a few one here and over on GP, all starting around that $6k mark and going up considerably depending on the condition, caliber, provenance, etc.

That’s not me telling you what to list it for but that’s been the sort of range you seen them at typically.

Additionally if you look around you can print off the FRT report and a copy of the legislature around antiques and that’s usually enough, don’t fall for ads asking for money for this you can usually find it free.

Nice gun! Love them colts.
 
MosinMan13 said:
That’s a hard one to ask an an even harder one to answer. In the past year I’ve seen a good half dozen come and sell here and online. The last one on OldGunsCanada was listed in a sneak peak email at $6900 (mind you a more desirable caliber and some sort of finish) and it never made it to the website as far as I could tell, which means it sold overnight at that asking (plus tax)

The last one I saw listed on antiquegunacanada was .41LC and a little more finish, same barrel listed around that $6500 mark (if I remember correctly) and sold after a couple weeks.

There’s been a few one here and over on GP, all starting around that $6k mark and going up considerably depending on the condition, caliber, provenance, etc.

That’s not me telling you what to list it for but that’s been the sort of range you seen them at typically.

Additionally if you look around you can print off the FRT report and a copy of the legislature around antiques and that’s usually enough, don’t fall for ads asking for money for this you can usually find it free.

Nice gun! Love them colts.
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Thanks for the information . very helpful!
 
Armalytics is the website with the FRT, a print off of that and a colt letter should do. But I’m not giving any legal advice.

It’s true, guns are worth what people are willing to pay. If you want a fair unbiased opinion on value join the colt forum. It is an awesome place to learn. I will stay out if the debate on price, what it is worth to one guy it’s not to the next. Condition is everything with these.
 
MosinMan13 said:
That’s a hard one to ask an an even harder one to answer. In the past year I’ve seen a good half dozen come and sell here and online. The last one on OldGunsCanada was listed in a sneak peak email at $6900 (mind you a more desirable caliber and some sort of finish) and it never made it to the website as far as I could tell, which means it sold overnight at that asking (plus tax)

The last one I saw listed on antiquegunacanada was .41LC and a little more finish, same barrel listed around that $6500 mark (if I remember correctly) and sold after a couple weeks.

There’s been a few one here and over on GP, all starting around that $6k mark and going up considerably depending on the condition, caliber, provenance, etc.

That’s not me telling you what to list it for but that’s been the sort of range you seen them at typically.

Additionally if you look around you can print off the FRT report and a copy of the legislature around antiques and that’s usually enough, don’t fall for ads asking for money for this you can usually find it free.

Nice gun! Love them colts.
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Yes, the $6900 one sold immediately. In fact any SAA I have ever had has sold before it hit the website. Maybe I'm too cheap?? I usually sell them for between $5500 and $5900. The last one was an exception. Incredible condition, professionally done, looked like brand new. The 41's are the most likely you are going to encounter in Canada as antiques. It's the most "common" caliber after the excepted ones. Most of the others are either restricted or prohibited. Try and find a 45 Boxer, 450 Adams or 44 Russian. Really rare! There are a total of 30 calibers to choose from, but only a hand-ful are allowed in Canada...
BTW - I don't use Armalytics anymore. Found too many mistakes and half-truths. I only use the RCMP FRT's.
Cheers!
 
I'm envious to no end...I have the exact same gun with no wear on it at all, just the "faded grey" of the guns of that era ....but mine was hatched the year after the cut-off so, besides being I/2 the value of yours in the real world- in our world of handgun bans it has been deemed worthless now.
 
fingers284 said:
I'm envious to no end...I have the exact same gun with no wear on it at all, just the "faded grey" of the guns of that era ....but mine was hatched the year after the cut-off so, besides being I/2 the value of yours in the real world- in our world of handgun bans it has been deemed worthless now.
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Parts do have a value. Plus a 1897 (cut off is 1898 in the US) is still antique in the US and if it is in nice condition, you will get some good money out of it. You still have to use an exporter like Prophet River to get it out of the system.
 
powderman said:
Yikes!

How do you access the RCMP FRT?

Regards,
Powderman
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The "public version" of the FRT's are available from the RCMP website. It's a huge, 106-some thousand page PDF document which takes about ten minutes to down-load, but it is well worth the effort. This is "getting it straight from the horse's mouth". I would not trust any other source for antique classification in Canada.
 
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