Questions about the NEW winchester model 70

SuperCub said:
Why?

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Well for starters you can shoot the gun upside down. I cannot count the number of times I have been in mid back flip and a round has just fallen out of my push feed gun. :) Seriously though whats not to like about the idea of CRF. A claw holds onto the round giving you total control. In my opinion it is a one up on a push feed action.
 
spenom said:
Well for starters you can shoot the gun upside down.
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You do that alot?

spenom said:
I cannot count the number of times I have been in mid back flip and a round has just fallen out of my push feed gun. :)
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Really?? :eek: What type of PF are you using cuz I've never had that happen with a properly operating PF or CRF and I've owned lots over the yrs?

spenom said:
Seriously though whats not to like about the idea of CRF. A claw holds onto the round giving you total control. In my opinion it is a one up on a push feed action.
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FTR ... I like and own both types, but don't see any advantage for the average North American hunter to use a CRF over a PF.

If you just plain like it better, that's fine. There's no other reason needed to own one. Just don't let on it's all that better, cuz it's not.


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SuperCub said:
You do that alot?


Really?? :eek: What type of PF are you using cuz I've never had that happen with a properly operating PF or CRF and I've owned lots over the yrs?


FTR ... I like and own both types, but don't see any advantage for the average North American hunter to use a CRF over a PF.

If you just plain like it better, that's fine. There's no other reason needed to own one. Just don't let on it's all that better, cuz it's not.


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I will say that a push feed simply cannot hang with a good CRF action in the smooth reliable feeding department. I to have owned lots of both.
 
SuperCub said:
FTR ... I like and own both types, but don't see any advantage for the average North American hunter to use a CRF over a PF.

If you just plain like it better, that's fine. There's no other reason needed to own one. Just don't let on it's all that better, cuz it's not.


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I would have to disagree.

If when chambering a round you happen to get a little excited and don't push the bolt all the way forward the push feed action will leave the cartridge in the chamber thereby causing a jamb when you try to chamber the next cartridge, not so with the CRF!
 
SuperCub said:
If you just plain like it better, that's fine. There's no other reason needed to own one. Just don't let on it's all that better, cuz it's not.
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No it is not just because I like it better. In my opinion there is other reasons to own one. You saying "Just don't let on it's all that better, cuz it's not" is not really accurate in my opinion. I believe CRF has some actual real world advantages. Of course I was joking around about shooting the rifle upside down while doing a backflip. But the posts above mine do a pretty good job of outlining the advantages.

-Smoother feeding

-Chambering a round you happen to get a little excited and don't push the bolt all the way forward the push feed action will leave the cartridge in the chamber thereby causing a jamb when you try to chamber the next cartridge, not so with the CRF

-I would add that a round can be chambered with the rifle in any position

So that is why I am letting on that it is better cuz it is
 
SuperCub said:
There's no other reason needed to own one. Just don't let on it's all that better, cuz it's not.
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I have a Winchester model 70 BDM which stands for "Box Detachable Magazine" in 308 Win. and it's a realy well made rifle, it looks realy good and it's accurate but, I don't like the fact that it's push feed, because you can't top up without removing the magazine. You have to push the rounds into the magazine from the front, the cartridges have to slide under the magazine lips. The model 70 in that configuration was only made for a year or so, from what I can gather. I did look up the year it was sold in the Wholesale Sports catalog, but my memory fails me as to what year that was now.

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Ukrainian Tire has the FWT 70's but I thought the recessed target crown looked out of place on them..................glad I've got several originals.......Harold
 
So who's shooting one now ? I wasnt' really fond of my push feed post 64 Model 70 but Im curious about a new featherweight. At 720$ ish that's a better deal than a lot of used guns in the EE .
 
Well I picked up a Model 70 Featherweight .270 Win last december and finally got it out to the range about a month ago. I did a basic bore sighting as I topped it with a Leupold VX3 3.5 x 10 in my shop then off to the range. On paper straight away. I brought a box of cheap Rem. factory rounds for just sighting the rifle in and in the end only needed 9 rounds before it/I was shooting an MOA 3 round group. The trigger felt great, the wood and blueing are very nice, the recoil pad did its job for the most part. I did have a bruise on my shoulder for a couple of days but I think that was mostly due to shooting off the bench, the fact I haven't shot in a LONG time and I was also shooting the 45/70 that day. I will concur with the slight floor plate issues already mentioned, its not perfect but its not a big deal IMHO and could probably be quickly remedied with a little smithing, its just not a big enough issue for me. Yes, I'm lazy.:) So overall I'm very happy with the rifle, very good value for the money.

James
 
I purchased an Extreme Weather in 30:06 from Bashaw Sports last October. The fit and finish is ok - the floorplate could fit better / tighter but not a big deal. The stock on mine is different that the one shown on the website - the pictures show a Bell & Carlson stock with a pronounced grip with grip cap - mine came with a Bell & Carlson medalist stock - shorter pistol grip and no grip cap? You can see it on their website. I have LARGE hands and the pistol grip still seems thick and the fore stock should have tapered down more just for a better look. I would have preferred a 24" barrel also. I have a Bushnell Elite 3200 3x9x40 lapped into leupold rings on leupold bases. At the range the trigger was excellent - crisp with no creep. After performing the barrel shoot in method Bashaw Sports recommended the rifle was exceptional - I shoot Federal Premium 165 grain Sierra GameKing boat tail soft points for deer - using a Caldwell Tack Driver sand bag setup I shot a final sight in group - the first three shots grouped at .78" and then I fired 2 more for a 5 shot group of .94" - I stopped shooting at that point. I am not a handloader but I am guessing that guys who are will get some tiny groups with these rifles. The Pachmyr recoil pad is a nice touch and works well.
 
My primary hunting rifle is a model 70 featherweight in 30.06, that my Father bought me for my 16th birthday ( 30 years ago). For bush hunting in Alberta, nothing better. I keep trying others, but always go back.

I've taken hundreds of animals. Any other gun is just a range gun.
 
I had the lower end Shadow in 300WSM with the CRF. Was going to use it for a build. Flawless function. Even with that crappy stock, no bedding, and just factory loads, it still grouped 1.5". I am sure this rifle would have really performed with a better stock and handloads.
 
Model 70

I am thinking about one of the NEW model 70's in a featherweight 30-06. Does anyone have one of these NEW guns that they can comment on the fit/finish quality and accuracy?
 
Casagrande said:
Looking at the stainless in 300 WSM. Thought maybe a reply might resurrect this thread.
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Well about a year later I am again looking at this very gun. I am glad I didn't buy this gun last year in 300 win mag. I have now learned that such a big gun is not needed for my intended purpose. I am thinking .270 would be perfect though. So a year later is there any good first hand info on this gun?
 
The articles pasted above are pretty much what you'd expect from a gun mag writer - like they're going to say anything bad about the rifle? The only one I ever had a real good look at wasn't synthetic stocked, but wood. And it had issues. Winchester still has a lot of QC to take care of methinks. Wasn't all that impressed considering I was thinking otherwise before I handled it. Was actually kinda disappointed, and if it had been what I was anticipating, I'd probably own one.
 
Wow search function. Years later I did go with the .270 and still have it! Put a zeiss rapid 800 on it and learned tons about shooting and reloading. Just thought it was funny to see a post from so far back.
 
So you never gave a report,range report an a photo or two up?
this thread has me interested on what the deal is with this rifle ! ??
whatya rekon of it


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