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Thinking of picking up a tavor but i have some questions before i place a order. My second question will require southpaw shooter to answer i think.

1. Is shooting the tavor off a bench rest more difficult then lets say a AR15? I imagine with the shorter front end it makes things a little more difficult. Am i right in assuming that?

2. As i am a lefty i know i need the left handed bolt wich isnt a problem. Im curious if switching out the left and right handed bolts is easy to do and can be done on the firing line without tools and in a minute or two of time? If i take one to the range im going to want other people to try it out so bolt swaps will have to be done. Im just hoping its not to much of a hassle.

3. Are they worth it? I mean for coolness factor? My norc m4 just isnt cutting it for me anymore.

4. Is the red dot that comes with any good or should it just be sold off to help pay for the tavor?

5. I assume i wont be getting tavor gas eye since i will be shooting from the other side of the rifle?

Any help would greatly apreciated.
 
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Ebola said:
Thinking of picking up a tavor but i have some questions before i place a order. My second question will require southpaw shooter to answer i think.

1. Is shooting the tavor off a bench rest more difficult then lets say a AR15? I imagine with the shorter front end its makes things a little more difficult. Am i right in assuming that?

not at all

2. As i am a lefty i know i need the left handed bolt wich isnt a problem. Im curious if switching out the left and right handed bolts is easy to do and can be done on the firing line without tools and in a minute or two of time? If i take one to the range im going to want other people to try it out so bolt swaps will have to be done. Im just hoping its not to much of a hassle.

Other than the cocking handle, switch the bolt and the ejection port plate is a 3 minute job with just a allen key


3. Are they worth it? I mean for coolness factor? My norc m4 just isnt cutting it for me anymore.

it's rather subjective, if you are bored with your AR you can always start swapping parts to keep it fresh, however Tavor being non-restricted means you can go hiking with it ;)

4. Is the red dot that comes with any good or should it just be sold off to help pay for tavor?

I like it, I have it on my AR right now, unless you spent a lot of time hiding under thick bushs shooting out or shoot after dark, it does the job.

5. I assume i wont be getting tavor gas eye since i will be shooting from the other side of the rifle?
tavor vents from both sides, I never really notice it myself, but if it realy bothers you you can just block it off with a bit of hockey tape.

Any help would greatly apreciated.
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1. I have no problem sandbagging the Tavor, just need to play with it to get it set up like I want it.

2. Look here; http://www.scribd.com/doc/29008594/T...rmourer-Manual

3. Absolutely! I'm fondling my Tavor & biting @ the bit to get my Kel-Tec RFB!!!

4. I kept the Mep21 on my Tavor, it's the new reticle with the 1 moa dot. I can see why it would be a good combat optic, its quick. That being said, when my RFB gets here, I have been thinking about putting a regular scope on it, maybe the Elite 6500 2.5-16x42 with 30 mm tube & mil dot reticle... That might have me looking to change out the Mep21 on the Tavor IF I like it better... I will say that it is difficult to shoot the Tavor for "accuracy" because I find it difficult to "stare into a light, ie the dot"... But with snap shooting, there is no problem...

5. I experienced the Tavor eye @ first, but after a couple hundred rounds, its gone??? Maybe I am not creeping the stock as much as I have gotten comfortable with the rifle??? Not sure...

Cheers
Jay
 
I have a Tavor and am a lefty too.
Additionally, I have actually done the right and left hand bolt swap.
In a controlled environment with all of the proper tools and bench it is a 10-15min. job after you have done it a few times.
I would recommend against attempting this swap on the bench at the range -especially for the first time.
 
beltfed said:
I have a Tavor and am a lefty too.
Additionally, I have actually done the right and left hand bolt swap.
In a controlled environment with all of the proper tools and bench it is a 10-15min. job after you have done it a few times.
I would recommend against attempting this swap on the bench at the range -especially for the first time.
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thanks for this info. much apreciated.
 
Ebola said:
Thinking of picking up a tavor but i have some questions before i place a order. My second question will require southpaw shooter to answer i think.

1. Is shooting the tavor off a bench rest more difficult then lets say a AR15? I imagine with the shorter front end it makes things a little more difficult. Am i right in assuming that?

I use a Lyman rest, with a bag for the rear of the gun - I have no issues firing from it - I also use the LAR-15 mags, which are quite compact and don't get in the way of the rear bag.

2. As i am a lefty i know i need the left handed bolt wich isnt a problem. Im curious if switching out the left and right handed bolts is easy to do and can be done on the firing line without tools and in a minute or two of time? If i take one to the range im going to want other people to try it out so bolt swaps will have to be done. Im just hoping its not to much of a hassle.

Sorry to hear about you being left handed...;) Switching the bolt over is quite easy - it's all the other things that are a bit of a PITA. Cocking rod, charging handle, ejection port and cover, as well as shell deflector. I thought I remembered reading somewhere in the armorers manual that a screw needed to be drilled out as it was loktited in ..???

3. Are they worth it? I mean for coolness factor? My norc m4 just isnt cutting it for me anymore.

I think they are worth the $$$ so much so that I have more than one... for me it isn't about cool or CDI factor, it's about function, ergonomics, and utility. As well, you're not limited to going to an approved range to shoot it, as it's non-restricted - unlike the M4.

4. Is the red dot that comes with any good or should it just be sold off to help pay for the tavor?

My preference is for a different style of optic - I like EoTechs on my Tavor's, but I'm keeping one of the Meprolights to stick atop the new KSG when it makes it's way to Canada!

5. I assume i wont be getting tavor gas eye since i will be shooting from the other side of the rifle?

Sure you will - it's exhausted from the seam at the rear sight (BUPS) gas tube assembly. Clean the oil out of the Gas operating system and there won't be an issue... or use a piece of tape and it's done...

Any help would greatly apreciated.
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I think the Tavor is the more prevalent bullpup rifle in Canada at present, and there may be some on the EE forum for sale. It accepts standard AR mags, so whatever you have for your Norinco will work with this gun. It's compact, robust, well thought out, and ambidextrous with the purchase of the LH bolt...

You can't go wrong with the gun - and if you don't like it, someone on the exchange forum will snap it away from you...
 
Ebola said:
Thinking of picking up a tavor but i have some questions before i place a order. My second question will require southpaw shooter to answer i think.

1. Is shooting the tavor off a bench rest more difficult then lets say a AR15? I imagine with the shorter front end it makes things a little more difficult. Am i right in assuming that?

Nope

2. As i am a lefty i know i need the left handed bolt wich isnt a problem. Im curious if switching out the left and right handed bolts is easy to do and can be done on the firing line without tools and in a minute or two of time? If i take one to the range im going to want other people to try it out so bolt swaps will have to be done. Im just hoping its not to much of a hassle.

It's not awful, but not quick and easy either.

3. Are they worth it? I mean for coolness factor? My norc m4 just isnt cutting it for me anymore.

If you like it then get one and try it out. If you don't like it, you can always get what you bought it for back.

4. Is the red dot that comes with any good or should it just be sold off to help pay for the tavor?

OK for close in action rifle, but absolute garbage for anything over 50 meters. The reticle blends in with every colour and background.

5. I assume i wont be getting tavor gas eye since i will be shooting from the other side of the rifle?

You will get it still.

Any help would greatly apreciated.
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the red dot with the tavor is quite good. my only complaint is the 5MOA dot. its a bit large if you are looking for accuracy. at 25 yards its holding well within the dot. about an inch and a quarter at 25 yards. (which is what it should be) thats using cheap prvi ammo. i pln on putting a riser rail on it, and getting a scope so i can do some yote hunting with it.

Tavor eye goes away unless you are shooting filthy ammo. after 3 boxes of prvi its gone i dont get it anymore. but it can be solved of course with some tape.
 
1. Is shooting the tavor off a bench rest more difficult then lets say a AR15? I imagine with the shorter front end it makes things a little more difficult. Am i right in assuming that?

No. I was shooting mine today from the bench. With a 30 round sized mag the pistol grip area is usually needing either your hand or a sandbag underneath it. The opposite would be the case with an ar-15 or conventional rifle.

2. As i am a lefty i know i need the left handed bolt wich isnt a problem. Im curious if switching out the left and right handed bolts is easy to do and can be done on the firing line without tools and in a minute or two of time? If i take one to the range im going to want other people to try it out so bolt swaps will have to be done. Im just hoping its not to much of a hassle.

No. Not really something you would on the firing line. There is too much disassembly required to call it a quick change.

3. Are they worth it? I mean for coolness factor? My norc m4 just isnt cutting it for me anymore.

I have an ar-15 and a bunch of other guns. I like having enough guns theat when I get tired of shooting one that I have a few others to choose from. I believe it's worth it. They are non-restricted and I like shooting in the woods with something other than an sks or cz-858. The quality level is high.


4. Is the red dot that comes with any good or should it just be sold off to help pay for the tavor?

The optic is actually orange which I don't like because I often shoot at clay pigeons which are a similar color and therefore it's hard to see the target. For that reason I took the meprolight scope off and bought a dlask rail and mounted by ACOG on the my Tavor. Now I have what I consider the ultimate set up. I'm hoping that the brass catchers for the Tavor will become available soon. That way I don't loose my brass and it will also stop most crud and carbon from ever coming near my face.
 
Also, have you considered an FN FS2000?
Prices are a bit better, no need of swapping bolts and they are more accurate than the Tavors too....some food for thought.
 
I find the tavor to be accurate enough for my uses, but it is sensitive to cant, due to the large bore to sight offset. The Fs2000 could very well be more accurate, I've never shot one. I love my bullpups, but that FS2000 has to be the ugliest gun ever made!
 
Throttle_monkey1 said:
I find the tavor to be accurate enough for my uses, but it is sensitive to cant, due to the large bore to sight offset. The Fs2000 could very well be more accurate, I've never shot one. I love my bullpups, but that FS2000 has to be the ugliest gun ever made!
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Awwww....your going to give the Nautilus a complex....:D Pictures don't do the gun any justice. Even with the optics cover on, it's not as tall at the Tavor. Plus, if you get the standard model, you get a decent little sight included. If you want a different look, just remove the optic, and cover - there's a rail underneath for mounting something else, and it streamlines the gun significantly... But once you get it re-barreled to Non-Restricted, your going to be into it for another $750... whereas the Tavor is ready to go out of the box...

One more thing... Although the FS2K is forward ejecting (nice for lefties), the charging handle doesn't just flip over to the opposite side of the gun like the Tavor. So from a shouldered position, you'd have to take your dominant hand off the grip to cycle the action.

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beltfed said:
Also, have you considered an FN FS2000?
Prices are a bit better, no need of swapping bolts and they are more accurate than the Tavors too....some food for thought.
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I thought of one of those but I would have to get it rebarreled to non restricted. That would put the cost at the same price as a tavor wich is already non resticted. Also the fn2000 in my opinion is ugly as hell.:puke:
 
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