you have to admit, however, lately, there's been a lot of questions that have already been answered by either the stickies, the manual,books, or the dvd's -questions constantly asked and previously answered tend to get a "GO LOOK IT UP " repsonse,and at least in my view, show a certain amount of lack of willingness to do some diligent research on the poster's part(ducks and covers)
Questions from new M14 owners (post here)
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True.t-star said:
However some people on this board are under the impression that firearms discussion and the sharing of information is something other users enjoy (I know I do). I will share information on most topics in a social setting regardless of whether or not the information can be googled or found at the local library.
With a two year old girl, wife, and a truck that still needs an oil change; I guess I'm out for the "quick fix." Personally I don't have the time or willingness to watch DVDs about the M14. Reading is much faster, even if I have to Google.
Also, and this is very relevant, there are only 80's imported Norinco M14's in the U.S. (mostly) and thusly most of the "Google'd" info is pertinent to these rifles that are, arguably, not the same in quality or material.
This makes Canadiangunnutz.com the only authoritative source for "quality" information on current production Norinco M14's.
I am not an emotionally guided person and will not take offence from individuals who would rather not post an answer to a question they could easily answer.
That being said; I had already found out the reason for the tilting butt stock on the M14 in an obscure article just prior to the helpful post above. - Still, thank you for your response.
Canadians are great in their demeanor and helpfulness and our board is often lacking in the snotty responses posted on other boards. – Lets keep it up!
P.S. I apologize for my verbose post. As a computer programmer, I type very quickly.
Jeff
It is difficult to understand the sometimes cold comments of those who tell someone to buzz off and do a search. There are a lot of folks out there who are not familiar with the iconography or culture of the internet, and they are just asking some honest questions. If someone is told to look at a particular resource in a polite collegial fashion, that's fine. However, this is often not the case. Some are subjected to a mild form of harassment in a thread. Responses of this kind demonstrate the insecurities typical of a bully.
It is intersting how much time some people are willing to spend expressing their annoyance with new people who have common questions. Anyone who is willing to invest the time and effort to reply to a thread has no logical reason for complaining that the thread is a waste of time. No one forces "experts" to read the threads or type a reply to them.
Unless someone has a severe intellectual impediment, it is obvious what the nature of a thread is from the very start.
Those who waste their own personal time and spew unprovoked venom are equally obvious by contrast: Anyone with time, knowledge, and a modicum of decency would politely help. If they didn't have time, they would not participate in the thread at all.
My response here is not directed anyone in this thread, but just a comment on how quickly (and needlessly) discussions of this type can go foul.
It is intersting how much time some people are willing to spend expressing their annoyance with new people who have common questions. Anyone who is willing to invest the time and effort to reply to a thread has no logical reason for complaining that the thread is a waste of time. No one forces "experts" to read the threads or type a reply to them.
Unless someone has a severe intellectual impediment, it is obvious what the nature of a thread is from the very start.
Those who waste their own personal time and spew unprovoked venom are equally obvious by contrast: Anyone with time, knowledge, and a modicum of decency would politely help. If they didn't have time, they would not participate in the thread at all.
My response here is not directed anyone in this thread, but just a comment on how quickly (and needlessly) discussions of this type can go foul.
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This is definitely *the* place to learn about the M305. Folks here for the most part are willing to go out of their way, sometimes even out of pocket supplying a hard to find "bit" at no cost.
The attitude in this particular forum has been quite free of the personal attacks that are becoming far too common elsewhere on the board. It sounds like some of the posters in this thread are trying to keep that atmosphere, and help out with the more basic questions that they've already learned the answers to.
This leaves the more experienced guys more time to focus on the more involved issues people may need help with.
Sounds like a "win win" situation to me.
The attitude in this particular forum has been quite free of the personal attacks that are becoming far too common elsewhere on the board. It sounds like some of the posters in this thread are trying to keep that atmosphere, and help out with the more basic questions that they've already learned the answers to.
This leaves the more experienced guys more time to focus on the more involved issues people may need help with.
Sounds like a "win win" situation to me.
windage knob doesn't really seem to work
Hi folks,
Having trouble with the windage knob.
Originally, it would turn, but only a click or two in each direction, and was very hard to move to boot. Got the rear sight apart, now when it goes together, turning the windage knob doesn't seem to change position of the rear site much, and can also seem to affect elevation.
Have looked through springfield armoury manual and a website I found in another thread, but there seems to be very little information on this.
The elevation knob works fine.
Any thoughts?
Fat
Hi folks,
Having trouble with the windage knob.
Originally, it would turn, but only a click or two in each direction, and was very hard to move to boot. Got the rear sight apart, now when it goes together, turning the windage knob doesn't seem to change position of the rear site much, and can also seem to affect elevation.
Have looked through springfield armoury manual and a website I found in another thread, but there seems to be very little information on this.
The elevation knob works fine.
Any thoughts?
Fat
Zorak said:
Being told to read 4 short threads is hardly the equivalent of being told to Google for answers. The answers for many questions are stickied, right at the top of the forum, written by members of this board, concerning the current vintage M305/M14.
I'll agree that this program's 'search' function leaves much to be desired; but really, dosen't the asker of a question owe us the respect of seeing if we have answered the same question in the last 4 days? And even if a search brings up a thread that is a year old, and you want to ask for some additional clarification, I've never seen anyone berated for resurecting old posts.
Zorak said:
Venom ? VENOM !?! Where on this board have you seen venom? Mild rebukes, expressions of disappointment and critcisim of sloppy thinking, certainly. I've been here a long time, and I can only think of a very few instances of the spewing of venom.
Jeffman:
Jeffman said:
So what you really mean is that your time is more valuable than ours?
Jeffman said:
If you have the time to go shooting, you have the time to watch these videos, and I believe you'd be smarter to give-up a couple range sessions to absorb the info therein, not to mention the invaluable info contained in the first couple of pages of posts in the Main Battle Rifle forum, and seeing as how you read so quickly it wouldn't take you much time at all.
Splatter said:
I am not sure why you felt compelled to rebut what I was saying. I was speaking only to the good sense of being polite and helpful and not speaking about you in any way. Is there something about what I have said that you take personally?
If one is disturbed by the threads of newbies, one need not read or debate them. We can all return to the main topic of this thread at any point.
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Thanx JeffMan.
Can we have a mod clean up this thread, please? As the title says. So I asked. Anyone who isn't posting here to help out a new 305 owner should just stay out of this thread.
Hint guys........
Can we have a mod clean up this thread, please? As the title says. So I asked. Anyone who isn't posting here to help out a new 305 owner should just stay out of this thread.
Hint guys........
To get back on track, if your reloading ,I found that Sierra Gamekings shot great but the small hollowpoint got hung up entering the chamber. Switched to Hornady SST's, almost the same accuracy, a little to the right and fed no problem. Shoots good enough to fill the freezer....Bob
fat but funky said:
I also had problems with the knobs. It would appear that they suck
as I've had the exact same problems as you. If you loosen the left side (elevation) it would seem that you can move the windage more easily.
If you loosen the right side, little bit trickier, you can move the elevation easier.
As my sights are functioning exactly as yours are, I'm going to assume that they are functioning as designed.
Personally I'm going to set mine for 25M (200M) and leave them.
Hope this helps.
Jeff
P.S - mods please clean up some of this thread.
Thank you.
Zorak said:
Splatter said:
Zorak said:
As was I, see the line in my prevoius post about 'respect'.
Ob M-14:
If you are wondering if your flash eliminator is welded on, turn your rifle upside down and carefully observe the rear-most ring (nearest the gas system), directly behind the flat 'lug' where the bayonet lug would be. If you see two very slightly discoloured circles about 3-or-4 mm in diametre at what would be the 5 and 7 o'clock position if the rifle was in the normal position.
If you don't see the circles, give the area a light polishing with 600 grit abrasive and them a quick wipe with some commercial 'cold-blue'. If they're there this will make them stand-out.
If they are there, and you want to remove your flash eliminator, you must drill or grind the 'spots' away. The weld is approximately 11/64" in diametre and the thickness of the FE ring is about 1/16" ; but if you put a couple of small dimples in the barrel, there's no harm done.
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I've found the exact same issues of the rear sight as you describe. I've taken it apart and put it back together to observe the same result. The only thing I noticed was that the last few spins on the bolt thread looked stripped. Possibly a manufacturing issue. (Tip: whatever you do, do not pull the smaller windage screw out from the windage knob while playing around with it. Took me 3 beer-hours' last night trying to get the little spring loaded washer back into the seated bevel using a screwdriver, continuity tested (pointy thing) and pliers. Ack!
For those of you wondering about the effectiveness of (Edit: oops, it was SkullBoy that noted this) method of replacing your operating rod guide roll pin and using red locktite to tighten it up. – It works very well and is easily accomplished.
You will need a new roll pin as it would seem that the old one wont survive the removal process, and appears too small in the first place.
Also, I inserted the operating rod, spring, and guide to allow the guide to take a more natural set while the locktite cured. It seemed to have worked very well.
I used a dremel to cut off the remanding piece of roll-pin.
Jeff
You will need a new roll pin as it would seem that the old one wont survive the removal process, and appears too small in the first place.
Also, I inserted the operating rod, spring, and guide to allow the guide to take a more natural set while the locktite cured. It seemed to have worked very well.
I used a dremel to cut off the remanding piece of roll-pin.
Jeff
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Bob said:
There's some useful info. Can you share a few more details please? What powder were you using, and what size groups were you able to get with these bullets?
I've just bought dies and some bullets to start reloading for this rifle soon.
