Quick advice needed on buying a muzzie.

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Looking to buy a muzzle loader tomorrow, likely at BPS.

It has to be idiot proof!!! Nothing fancy, just something plain jane and simple to start with.

Likely will stick with open (fibre optic) sights for this year, as I don't plan on any long shooting. Would probably add a scope next year when I have more time.

Don't want to spend a ton, preferable $300-$400.

What do you recommend?????

Thanks.
 
Check out the savage muzzle loaders. You can use smokeless powders with them, you can get them for around 400$ and with smokeless powder it makes it super easy to maintain. No mess of black powder and you wont need to buy a ton of extra stuff for them. You can use black powder or smokeless powder with the savage.
Easy maintenance and simplicity was my consideration when I bought mine.
Good luck on the purchase.
 
What do you mean by BPS?
Can't go wrong with a Thompson Center Omega, some great deals right now on the Z5 model ($250-$350), never heard a bad thing about them. Easy to use and to clean.
 
no such thing as idiot proof. when you think you have idiot proofed something god invents a better idiot.

just remember, Powder first, then the sabbot, THEN the primer. they need cleaning after every 3 or 4 shots. dont be a bubba that brings a dirty muzzy to your gunsmith and say it doesent work...
 
You have to have some idea of what type you want first. I find the traditional style like the Lyman Deerstalker to be about as simple as it gets. Shooting patched round balls is easier than pounding a pastic wrapped pistol bullet down the bore, but that is my take on it. Take a look at Wholesale sports web sight.
 
Inlines far out sell traditional style muzzle loaders. I have both kinds and I guess it depends on your personal gun style preference as to which one you'll end up getting. My inline is a very affordable Traditions Tracker 209 .50 caliber that uses shotgun primers for ignition (best in my opinion because 209 shotgun primers are cheap and give positive ignition of the powder leading to almost non-existant hangfires). I handles magnum charges of 150 grains of powder too. Although, 100 to 110 grains is more than enough for most shooting.

I installed Leupold quick detach mounts for the scope. I love this feature because I can take the scope off for cleaning. I use the hot water method, so not having the scope on just makes it easier to clean it in my garage sink.

Anyhow it's a great compact gun and balances real well in the hand (just like my .30-30 model 94). I highly recommend it. Traditions parts are very affordable and components are extensively available at most gun stores.
 
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