blaxsun
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Death by meteor. It's probably gonna happen...
Quick SL8 vs Swiss arms question
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Death by meteor. It's probably gonna happen...
Maybe a little.But seriously, everyone (including XCR owners) who've ever held my ACR absolutely love it. For $1600 though, it's hard to go wrong (that's even a better deal than a Benelli MR1). Then again I've only got about $1200 into my Tavor at this point, so I can certainly relate...
What did they like about it. I had my fill of bull Bups with the SA-80.
blaxsun
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Well, the short list was the quality in the fit and finish, the controls seem instinctively placed and the ACR is nicely balanced in terms of weight. The first comment I always get is "It's not that heavy - I thought it was supposed to be a lot heavier?"
That's curious because I don't find the XCR heavy at all. Mind you I normally use a JAE stocked M14. I also find the control interface of the XCR excellent. On mine I don't have any issues with fit or finish but that might not be true of all examples.
blaxsun
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I didn't necessarily mean compared to the XCR; I just meant that many people have preconceived notions about the ACR based on rumours and myths from people who were disappointed it wasn't the Masada. When many actually hold and handle it in-person they're always pleasantly surprised.
blaxsun
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So what you are saying is that people's opinion of the ACR is low it can only approved on introduction to the firearm.
People's misinformed opinion, but that's generally accurate. The same could also be said for the XCR...
I don't find either of them particularly heavy.
This quick photo is a bit deceiving, as the SL8 appears to be a bit shorter than it actually is.
Both are almost the same for length,
both are non-restricted,
both have approx 4X optics,
both have folding butts,
both have proprietary mags,
both shoot the Sierra 77gr well,
both triggers are OK,
both are about the same price as presented (OK, the HK a bit more, but not much),
both can have rails up front to hang stuff off of,
both can do a bayonet charge.
Sig is a bit heavier than the HK.
I wouldn't be pissed if I could only have one. And it would be a hard decision as to which, as I think both are just fine.
This quick photo is a bit deceiving, as the SL8 appears to be a bit shorter than it actually is.
Both are almost the same for length,
both are non-restricted,
both have approx 4X optics,
both have folding butts,
both have proprietary mags,
both shoot the Sierra 77gr well,
both triggers are OK,
both are about the same price as presented (OK, the HK a bit more, but not much),
both can have rails up front to hang stuff off of,
both can do a bayonet charge.
Sig is a bit heavier than the HK.
I wouldn't be pissed if I could only have one. And it would be a hard decision as to which, as I think both are just fine.
So Jelly... i can see that your G36 is done using the proper HK conversion parts (instead of the top notch conversion)... and you also have that rare barrel....
Ive always wanted to do that.. but it was just too painful waiting for the parts to arrive....
How hard was it for you to source that 18.5 HK barrel (or standard g36)
Back when i looked into doing the conversion, all i could find was the much shorter G36K (or was it C) barrel...
I may try doing the mod again seeing as how the new HERA ACR stock adaptor is in the country next step find the barrel!
If you dont mind.. can you show me where to get one
Ive always wanted to do that.. but it was just too painful waiting for the parts to arrive....
How hard was it for you to source that 18.5 HK barrel (or standard g36)
Back when i looked into doing the conversion, all i could find was the much shorter G36K (or was it C) barrel...
I may try doing the mod again seeing as how the new HERA ACR stock adaptor is in the country
next step find the barrel! If you dont mind.. can you show me where to get one
I don't find either of them particularly heavy.
This quick photo is a bit deceiving, as the SL8 appears to be a bit shorter than it actually is.
Both are almost the same for length,
both are non-restricted,
both have approx 4X optics,
both have folding butts,
both have proprietary mags,
both shoot the Sierra 77gr well,
both triggers are OK,
both are about the same price as presented (OK, the HK a bit more, but not much),
both can have rails up front to hang stuff off of,
both can do a bayonet charge.
Sig is a bit heavier than the HK.
I wouldn't be pissed if I could only have one. And it would be a hard decision as to which, as I think both are just fine.
I've just never been drawn to the bullpups, the opposite of love at first sight I suppose. I am also not looking to replace the ACR, just give it some company - so whatever I choose doesn't have to be 'better' than the ACR, just another option
I've tried to stop looking, but that doesn't last for long
The grass is always greener on the side.
Steve Janes
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Buy an XCR in 7.62.
I've just never been drawn to the bullpups, the opposite of love at first sight I suppose. I am also not looking to replace the ACR, just give it some company - so whatever I choose doesn't have to be 'better' than the ACR, just another option
I've tried to stop looking, but that doesn't last for long
What's with the facepalm? There's nothing wrong with a G36 preference over an SL8.
I personally prefer the SL8's bull barrel over the G36 pencil barrel but prefer the G36 pistol grip over the thumbhole stock. So rather than wait years for a G36 to come up on the EE and spend $7500-$10000(not that I really wanted to spend that much on a .223/5.56)........I just un-thumbholed my SL8.
I always liked the AUG but overall wasn't really drawn to the bullpups when their faults were known. Although I recognized the potential benefits there were too many draw backs to them. Even the FS2000 I considered but passed on. The Tavor however is something worth owning. If I had an ACR this is what I would look at. I'd keep the ACR NR as a DM style rifle and get the Tavor for off hand shooting.
If you get a chance to shoot a tavor I would recommend it. I wasn't interested in one originally (in fact I bought the PE-90 first) until I tried one. Get someone who knows how to use one to run you through it's operation. The mag change should be done using the shooting hand thumb to release the mag which drops free with the weak side hand putting in a new mag then activating the bolt release in one motion. Very slick and fast. That was one of the huge disadvantages of bullpups previously. Not so anymore. Shooting the Tavor standing, sitting, kneeling and prone is also a real joy. The bullpups excel in off hand shooting.
I'd recommend trying one out, especially since you already have a NR ACR. The ACR does everything these other rifles do and is the most modern of the bunch.
^ I think that can be arranged this summer - might as well give it a shot I did watch a couple of videos on the Tavor, one of which demonstrated the reload procedure; looked pretty quick. I also picked up a SKS to play with in the mean time.
I did watch a couple of videos on the Tavor, one of which demonstrated the reload procedure; looked pretty quick. I also picked up a SKS to play with in the mean time.
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I've tried to stop looking, but that doesn't last for long
Until you find out it's a swamp.
