Quickload need to have cd shipped? Cant download?

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I want to buy quickload but really dont feel like having a cd shipped to me, postage fees, delay.
Cant we just buy and download?
 
I also asked the same question to them. Looks like they can allow download due to some regulations in Germany. Or at least that's what they say.

Bought the disc, worth every penny.
 
I have the old school windows 95 version. Upgraded all of my computers so currently it only runs on an old netbook running Ubuntu :S

It's a pretty badass program. Ever wondered what would be a good load for 338 win mag with 800x? It can do that fairly well :)
 
You can run it in Linux but you have to use wine. I would assume there is a similar method of running windows programs under apple.
 
I just ordered from neconos. Seriously, 2016, need to have cd shipped.
Means 30$ USD shipping + delay + duty + tax.....
How ridiculous, I mean, why not do like the rest of the world, pay and download.

Oh well, whatever. Approx 235$ (+duty and tax on delivery I guess)

I hope that it's going to help me confirm some data.
This, with my lab radar, I should be able to get pretty accurate pressure info and data I guess.
I'm a data junkie, even if a load "works well", I am the kind of guy that wants to know the FPS, AV, ES, SD, pressure, etc etc.... just for fun.
 
Kryogen

Let us know what you think of Quickload once you have played with it for awhile. With all the tweaking that needs to be done plus using a chronograph to change the burn rate in Quickload to calibrate it. My thoughts are its not worth the money for computer generated guesstimates with so many variables in rifles and reloading components.

I also don't like the idea of NECO going around to websites tell people they can't share Quickload output data because it is copyright protected. This is a outright lie and many people refuse to buy Quickload because of NECO greed in trying to sell more copies when they get a percentage of the sales.
 
Kryogen

Let us know what you think of Quickload once you have played with it for awhile. With all the tweaking that needs to be done plus using a chronograph to change the burn rate in Quickload to calibrate it. My thoughts are its not worth the money for computer generated guesstimates with so many variables in rifles and reloading components.

I also don't like the idea of NECO going around to websites tell people they can't share Quickload output data because it is copyright protected. This is a outright lie and many people refuse to buy Quickload because of NECO greed in trying to sell more copies when they get a percentage of the sales.

Yeah, I do agree with all that.
It's probably not "worth" the cost to me, but I wanted to have the opportunity to legally play with it.

I'll report once I have had a chance to try it.

My intended uses were:

1- Get starting loads for "whatever cartridge/powder/bullet/OAL". Then I have to work up the load. (Even if it only does this, that's ok for me).
2- With the lab radar data to calibrate, once the numbers agree, my idea was that it would be able to generate accurate tables with my pressures for my rifle, so I can get an idea where I am at.

I don't have unrealistic expectations, but it does look like a nice software to get data.
 
I don't have unrealistic expectations, but it does look like a nice software to get data.

Just remember how much loading data varies between loading manuals so its impossible for any computer software program to give more than computer generated guesses.

To make Quickload more accurate a chronograph is needed and you tweak the powder burn rate and bullet weight until the Quickload velocity matches your chronograph velocity. Meaning you must calibrate Quickload for every firearm and load variation you have.

If you take a loading manual and input this into Quickload some output is very close. And other loads can be very far off in their estimations of velocity and pressure. And this was my disapointment until I bought a MagnetoSpeed Chronograph to calibrate Quickload.

Bottom line, the average reloader does not need Quickload and will learn more by making workup loads and checking the cases for signs of pressure.

Good Luck
 
Just remember how much loading data varies between loading manuals so its impossible for any computer software program to give more than computer generated guesses.

To make Quickload more accurate a chronograph is needed and you tweak the powder burn rate and bullet weight until the Quickload velocity matches your chronograph velocity. Meaning you must calibrate Quickload for every firearm and load variation you have.

If you take a loading manual and input this into Quickload some output is very close. And other loads can be very far off in their estimations of velocity and pressure. And this was my disapointment until I bought a MagnetoSpeed Chronograph to calibrate Quickload.

Bottom line, the average reloader does not need Quickload and will learn more by making workup loads and checking the cases for signs of pressure.

Good Luck

Well that's what I said.
Use it to get start loads and compare to manuals, then work up the load with lab radar, then calibrate to get pressure info and more accurate data.
 
You can adjust values for just about everything. case capacity, bullet weight/length/profile, case length, barrel length, etc etc. You can even create your own profiles for your own powders and bullets. It's pretty in depth. I imagine the newer updated versions are even more in depth.
 
i imagine own personal brass against the generic one used may add a difference too?

You must find the case capacity of the cases you are using by filling the case with water. Example, for the .223/5.56 Quickload defaults to 28.8 grains of H2O and my Lake City cases hold 30.6 grains.

At the default setting of 28.8 grains of H2O using a Hornady 55 grain FMJ bullet and 25 grains of H335 the chamber pressure is 53,512 psi. And by just changing the case capacity to 30.6 the chamber pressure drops to 46,072 psi. The smaller the case is the more effect it has on chamber pressure.

Below the vast majority of .223/5.56 cases are in the 30 + grains of H2O, but some of the cases are in the 28.0 grains of H20 range. And this is why loading data varies between loading manuals, cartridge components and firearms all vary and why they tell you to start low and work up.

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