GRT covers Campro bullets, does QuickLoad?
I have & use both QL [QuickLoad] and G.R.T. [Gordon's Reloading Tool].
No regrets whatsoever; I've bought a few of the upgrades as well.
When I'm working up loads, I'll typically use both as a cross-check / audit confirmation.
For those who say there's all kinds of free or manual data out there for SAAMI or CIP cartridges:
How much is available for your brand/lot of brass [case capacity, an important input value], specific bullets [length], chosen seating depth [because of magazine or throat restrictions], specific powder you want to use & at your chosen pressure level for your specific rifle?
I bought it from Neconos in the US which, AFAIK, is the ONLY place you can buy it if you live in North America.
Re: What was the delay for getting it and the price of shipping?
How long is shipping from the US for a software disk? The latest data update I purchased last fall was a download link, so virtually instantaneous.
For those who say their results are close to, but not as close as they'd like, presuming you input your specific barrel length, did you do the rifling calculation in QL, and input the firing line / ammunition temperature and did you input the primer & bullet specifications in GRT?
Remember G.I.G.O.!
About the only thing I'd like to see in QL is primer brisance calculation, or at least have a pick list of primers, ogive calculation [distance from throat / leade], relative humidity & altitude input [although these can be input in the included QT [Quick Target & Quick Target Unlimited] programmes.
For those who say they'd rather obtain their data from published information, where do you think most labs determine start & max. loads?
Once you're familiar with it, easy as pie.My copy of QuickLoad arrived. Still learning how to use it
Cartridge : .[B]375 WSM[/B]
Bullet : .375, 260, Nosler PART SP 44850
Useable Case Capaci: 72.015 grain H2O = 4.676 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 104 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
28 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17 102.1 71.1 4.61 2732 99.9 60000 7857 1.139 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 96.4 69.7 4.52 2668 99.0 60000 7572 1.157 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 101.0 70.9 4.59 2667 96.5 60000 7791 1.157 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 101.0 70.9 4.59 2667 96.5 60000 7791 1.157 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 103.1 69.9 4.53 2665 98.7 60000 7716 1.167 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame 96.2 68.0 4.41 2651 99.5 60000 7303 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 95.5 63.4 4.11 2641 99.7 60000 7315 1.176 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 104.0 67.2 4.36 2636 98.6 55160 7627 1.179
Alliant Reloder TS 15.5 101.2 64.3 4.17 2633 100.0 60000 6934 1.175 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 91.0 65.9 4.27 2631 100.0 60000 7148 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 96.8 64.2 4.16 2630 99.6 60000 7229 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 96.3 63.9 4.14 2629 99.4 60000 7268 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748 88.6 63.3 4.10 2628 100.0 60000 6867 1.173 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 103.1 69.9 4.53 2625 98.7 60000 7192 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 104.0 69.0 4.47 2623 98.5 57376 7523 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 95.8 59.4 3.85 2618 100.0 60000 6465 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 92.9 61.7 4.00 2617 99.8 60000 7069 1.181 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 97.6 66.2 4.29 2613 98.5 60000 7305 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 104.0 68.3 4.43 2613 98.3 55957 7506 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 104.0 71.3 4.62 2607 96.5 55181 7670 1.190
Shooters World Match Rifle 93.0 63.6 4.12 2601 100.0 60000 6648 1.189 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 104.0 71.3 4.62 2594 93.4 57563 7518 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET 98.9 63.5 4.12 2593 99.2 60000 6995 1.179 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 89.7 59.8 3.88 2593 100.0 60000 6771 1.184 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Precision 97.3 62.8 4.07 2592 100.0 60000 6792 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 95.8 64.3 4.17 2589 100.0 60000 6645 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 84.4 61.2 3.96 2588 100.0 60000 6520 1.185 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle 103.9 67.5 4.37 2588 97.7 60000 7180 1.188 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC 91.4 65.4 4.24 2587 98.0 60000 7121 1.185 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208XBR 91.7 60.9 3.94 2586 100.0 60000 6703 1.185 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 99.6 62.5 4.05 2586 99.4 60000 6861 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 93.5 61.1 3.96 2585 100.0 60000 6502 1.189 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 94.3 61.3 3.97 2581 100.0 60000 6771 1.196 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4451 Enduron 101.0 66.3 4.29 2580 96.2 60000 7162 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 89.4 57.6 3.73 2579 100.0 60000 6298 1.185 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp 91.0 58.4 3.79 2574 100.0 60000 5957 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350 104.0 68.3 4.43 2573 96.2 57943 7308 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator 89.2 63.2 4.10 2571 99.5 60000 6784 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 95.7 62.3 4.04 2561 100.0 60000 6244 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4166 Enduron 100.5 63.9 4.14 2559 96.5 60000 6963 1.188 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 101.8 61.2 3.97 2559 100.0 60000 6053 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World AR Plus 85.9 61.1 3.96 2557 100.0 60000 6418 1.199 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 91.1 59.6 3.86 2551 100.0 60000 6399 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 104.0 68.7 4.45 2550 95.0 56611 7138 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Tactical Rifle 85.9 60.7 3.94 2549 99.9 60000 6448 1.193 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 104.0 65.1 4.22 2545 100.0 57413 6600 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x 86.9 54.4 3.53 2533 100.0 60000 5905 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26 104.0 74.2 4.81 2533 95.3 45430 8184 1.280
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 104.0 66.8 4.33 2524 99.0 51558 6879 1.226
Norma 200 83.1 54.0 3.50 2507 100.0 60000 5737 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198 84.7 52.8 3.42 2505 100.0 60000 5738 1.181 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133 95.3 57.9 3.75 2505 100.0 60000 5681 1.202 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 104.0 67.5 4.38 2505 94.1 53677 7017 1.223
QL is the King, if you know how to use it...
Cartridge : .[B]375 WSM[/B]
Bullet : .375, [B]250, Hornady GMX[/B] 3708
Useable Case Capaci: 70.756 grain H2O = 4.594 cm³
[B]Cartridge O.A.L[/B]. L6: [B]3.020 inch[/B] = 76.71 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching [B]Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 104 %[/B]
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
27 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17 101.9 69.7 4.52 2735 99.7 60000 7566 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 96.2 68.4 4.43 2669 98.6 60000 7273 1.146 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 100.8 69.5 4.51 2666 95.9 60000 7457 1.145 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 100.8 69.5 4.51 2666 95.9 60000 7457 1.145 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 102.8 68.5 4.44 2663 98.2 60000 7404 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Leverevolution 103.5 67.5 4.37 2660 97.8 60000 7257 1.147 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame 96.0 66.7 4.32 2653 99.3 60000 7028 1.151 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 104.0 66.1 4.28 2643 98.2 55581 7327 1.162 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 95.3 62.1 4.03 2642 99.4 60000 7051 1.165 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder TS 15.5 100.9 63.0 4.08 2636 100.0 60000 6698 1.164 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 90.8 64.6 4.19 2632 99.8 60000 6894 1.167 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748 88.3 62.0 4.02 2632 100.0 60000 6636 1.162 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 96.5 63.0 4.08 2631 99.4 60000 6966 1.167 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 96.1 62.7 4.06 2630 99.0 60000 7000 1.167 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 104.0 67.8 4.40 2627 98.1 58127 7231 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 95.5 58.2 3.77 2627 100.0 60000 6239 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 103.0 68.5 4.44 2625 98.2 60000 6906 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 92.8 60.5 3.92 2621 99.6 60000 6827 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 104.0 67.1 4.35 2618 97.9 56410 7212 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 97.4 64.9 4.21 2611 98.0 60000 7019 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 104.0 70.0 4.54 2611 95.9 55664 7348 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 89.5 58.7 3.81 2598 99.9 60000 6549 1.175 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 104.0 70.0 4.54 2595 92.6 57944 7185 1.164 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 84.3 60.0 3.89 2595 100.0 60000 6301 1.176 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 95.6 63.0 4.09 2595 100.0 60000 6416 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET 98.7 62.3 4.04 2594 98.9 60000 6733 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 93.4 59.9 3.88 2591 100.0 60000 6285 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208XBR 91.6 59.7 3.87 2591 99.8 60000 6481 1.176 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 89.3 56.5 3.66 2588 100.0 60000 6087 1.175 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 99.4 61.3 3.97 2587 99.0 60000 6613 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC 91.4 64.3 4.16 2587 97.5 60000 6848 1.176 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 94.3 60.2 3.90 2586 99.9 60000 6557 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp 90.7 57.2 3.71 2585 100.0 60000 5740 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator 89.2 62.1 4.02 2575 99.3 60000 6550 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 95.5 61.0 3.96 2567 100.0 60000 6032 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 101.5 60.0 3.89 2566 100.0 60000 5840 1.183 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 91.2 58.6 3.80 2559 100.0 60000 6205 1.188 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 104.0 64.0 4.15 2553 99.9 57940 6376 1.192 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 104.0 67.5 4.37 2552 94.3 56992 6837 1.185 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x 86.8 53.4 3.46 2546 100.0 60000 5712 1.196 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26 104.0 72.9 4.73 2541 94.6 46370 7818 1.264
Hodgdon CFE BLK 84.3 58.3 3.78 2540 99.9 60000 6141 1.179 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 104.0 65.6 4.25 2531 98.7 52148 6616 1.208
Norma 200 83.1 53.0 3.44 2520 100.0 60000 5558 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198 84.8 51.9 3.37 2519 100.0 60000 5570 1.167 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133 95.2 56.8 3.68 2516 100.0 60000 5490 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198 86.6 50.6 3.28 2511 100.0 60000 5316 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 104.0 66.4 4.30 2507 93.4 54149 6719 1.209
I'm not sure 3.1" is needed in the 375 WSM. That only leaves .170" of bullet shank below the case mouth with a 250gr Hornady GMX/CX , and .135" shank/neck contact with a 260gr Nosler Partition
Here's a QL chart for a 250gr GMX loaded to 3.02" which would give .247" of shank/neck contact (2/3 of the caliber size .375" x 0.66 = .247"), and assuming this puts it at .050" off the lands theoretically . Start pressure adjusted from default # to 10,826psi (5076 psi for grooved copper monometal +7200 psi for touching rifling, -1450 psi for being .050 off). Also added .05 to weighting factor for loading monometals (.62 to .67)
Code:Cartridge : .[B]375 WSM[/B] Bullet : .375, [B]250, Hornady GMX[/B] 3708 Useable Case Capaci: 70.756 grain H2O = 4.594 cm³ [B]Cartridge O.A.L[/B]. L6: [B]3.020 inch[/B] = 76.71 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching [B]Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 104 %[/B] These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 27 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Alliant Reloder-17 101.9 69.7 4.52 2735 99.7 60000 7566 1.125 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon CFE223 96.2 68.4 4.43 2669 98.6 60000 7273 1.146 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 760 100.8 69.5 4.51 2666 95.9 60000 7457 1.145 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H414 100.8 69.5 4.51 2666 95.9 60000 7457 1.145 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N550 102.8 68.5 4.44 2663 98.2 60000 7404 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Leverevolution 103.5 67.5 4.37 2660 97.8 60000 7257 1.147 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot BigGame 96.0 66.7 4.32 2653 99.3 60000 7028 1.151 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-16 104.0 66.1 4.28 2643 98.2 55581 7327 1.162 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4895 95.3 62.1 4.03 2642 99.4 60000 7051 1.165 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder TS 15.5 100.9 63.0 4.08 2636 100.0 60000 6698 1.164 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon BL-C2 90.8 64.6 4.19 2632 99.8 60000 6894 1.167 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 748 88.3 62.0 4.02 2632 100.0 60000 6636 1.162 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203B 96.5 63.0 4.08 2631 99.4 60000 6966 1.167 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-15 96.1 62.7 4.06 2630 99.0 60000 7000 1.167 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4350 104.0 67.8 4.40 2627 98.1 58127 7231 1.172 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 3031 95.5 58.2 3.77 2627 100.0 60000 6239 1.166 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N160 103.0 68.5 4.44 2625 98.2 60000 6906 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4895 92.8 60.5 3.92 2621 99.6 60000 6827 1.172 ! Near Maximum ! Norma URP 104.0 67.1 4.35 2618 97.9 56410 7212 1.174 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H380 97.4 64.9 4.21 2611 98.0 60000 7019 1.171 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Hunter 104.0 70.0 4.54 2611 95.9 55664 7348 1.174 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N530 89.5 58.7 3.81 2598 99.9 60000 6549 1.175 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 204 104.0 70.0 4.54 2595 92.6 57944 7185 1.164 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H335 84.3 60.0 3.89 2595 100.0 60000 6301 1.176 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N540 95.6 63.0 4.09 2595 100.0 60000 6416 1.178 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon VARGET 98.7 62.3 4.04 2594 98.9 60000 6733 1.171 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 202 93.4 59.9 3.88 2591 100.0 60000 6285 1.180 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 8208XBR 91.6 59.7 3.87 2591 99.8 60000 6481 1.176 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H322 89.3 56.5 3.66 2588 100.0 60000 6087 1.175 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4064 99.4 61.3 3.97 2587 99.0 60000 6613 1.174 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot TAC 91.4 64.3 4.16 2587 97.5 60000 6848 1.176 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 201 94.3 60.2 3.90 2586 99.9 60000 6557 1.186 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant AR-Comp 90.7 57.2 3.71 2585 100.0 60000 5740 1.174 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot X-Terminator 89.2 62.1 4.02 2575 99.3 60000 6550 1.182 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N140 95.5 61.0 3.96 2567 100.0 60000 6032 1.182 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N135 101.5 60.0 3.89 2566 100.0 60000 5840 1.183 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Benchmark 91.2 58.6 3.80 2559 100.0 60000 6205 1.188 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N150 104.0 64.0 4.15 2553 99.9 57940 6376 1.192 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4350 104.0 67.5 4.37 2552 94.3 56992 6837 1.185 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-10x 86.8 53.4 3.46 2546 100.0 60000 5712 1.196 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-26 104.0 72.9 4.73 2541 94.6 46370 7818 1.264 Hodgdon CFE BLK 84.3 58.3 3.78 2540 99.9 60000 6141 1.179 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 104.0 65.6 4.25 2531 98.7 52148 6616 1.208 Norma 200 83.1 53.0 3.44 2520 100.0 60000 5558 1.212 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4198 84.8 51.9 3.37 2519 100.0 60000 5570 1.167 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N133 95.2 56.8 3.68 2516 100.0 60000 5490 1.171 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4198 86.6 50.6 3.28 2511 100.0 60000 5316 1.166 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4350 104.0 66.4 4.30 2507 93.4 54149 6719 1.209