RA XCR vs Bushmaster ACR
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Stormchaser
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And this is why I love this guy.
I was using bulk federal .223 FMJ 55 grain. Also, it was my first time shooting a centre fire rifle. I was a pistol only kind of guy for a wile.
You need to compare apples to apples since the Modern Hunter currently is set-up in the .308 calibre you must compare a RA XCR-M of a .308 calibre for a fair price comparison and in doing so you'll see the prices are much closer then you realize.
Not sure where you're getting the prices for these rifles or perhaps you are trying to compare the .223 Robinson Arms XCR-L to a .308 calibre ATRS Modern Hunter rifle? Regardless the ATRS MH (Modern Hunter) in it's basic set-up as a .308 (there is no .223 available yet) sold for $3,100 originally (the next batch of basic .308 MH rifles will sell for $3,500). A RA XCR-M with Heavy barrel in .308 is currently $2995 at Wolverine (or the LW barrelled .308 XCR-M is $2,725) so only $505 difference or $775 if you go with the LW barrelled XCR-M, not a $1,200 difference.
The Modern Hunter MIGHT be worth the additional money you say, one thing is certain when comparing the Modern Hunter to a XCR-M, the 15% to 25% more spent on the ATRS MH will yield a 100%+ improvement in accuracy over a XCR-M (ATRS MH=1MOA or better versus the RA XCR-M=2+MOA at best). Not to mention the MH is a Canadian designed, manufactured, assembled, warranted and serviced rifle using many common AR parts and it also comes with a wide array of custom options not available in the RA rifle line.
Perhaps Tiger stripes are more important then an accurate and extremely well built rifle for some, because if Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply builds it's Modern Hunter rifles like they've built every other rifle that's come out of their shop then it's safe to state what I've said here.
The Modern Hunter rifles will be outstanding in their design and performance, offering excellent reliability and superb accuracy worth every penny spent.
As for the XCR versus ACR debate, if accuracy is important then the ACR with a NR barrel from a shop like Herron Arms would no doubt be the choice for sure.
If all that is needed is a plinker for behind the seat in the truck then save some cash for more ammo. and buy a XCR-L, or better yet jump on a NR ACR in the EE.
Cheers D
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andrew3081
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If you actually look around, XCR does have a lot of aftermarket accessories.
Yes the MSRP is $3,100 or $3,500 for MH, but are you actually going to be paying that price? Or will the price increase like everything else in Canada.
At least the XCR M price is the price you will be paying today, and the MH price is the BEST price you MIGHT be paying in a few months.
And with Wolverine Supplies as the warranty centre for Canada, I dont think you can beat that.
Yes, Modern Hunter MIGHT be worth the money...depending on how it turns out.
Like every rifle that is produced, there is always some chance the rifle will have reliability issues and other issues. How do you know that the MH will have superb reliability? There are expensive guns from reputable manufactures out there that have reliability issues.
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Thats pretty normal with that ammo.
and not enough of this 
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1.) I was referring to the MH's FACTORY available options, but since you mention it the MH will have many aftermarket options available too.
2.) Not quite sure what you mean? The MH in its basic form can be bought for $3,500 today and a XCR-M can be bought for $2,995 today (plus taxes of course). Who's to say what the price for either of these rifles will be later this year or next.
3.) Couldn't agree with you more that Wolverine is an upstanding firearms business capable of offering excellent warranty service which I also think could be said of ATRS.
4.) History is what we have as a basis to make decisions regarding future events or in this case equipment and in that vane I believe (as do the many others who have made significant deposits on the ATRS MH rifle) based on ATRS's past history of building premium quality rifles, this one will be no different.
5.) Definitely a true statement, any mechanical product can have teething issues when new. It's a companies ability to sort through any issues that may come up and get it right for their customers in a timely manner that ultimately leaves me secure in saying that the Modern Hunter rifle will not only be reliable, but very accurate as well. Something that could not be said of the Robinson Armament Co. with respect to their XCR rifles.
Cheers D
The thing about the MH that kind of sucks it's that 3500 is the base price, if want to change anything it's going to go up from there and personally I think they picked the ugliest hand guard available. That said I still want one haha.
To the XCR convo I had one about 2 years ago, shot about 2000 rounds through it without one hiccup.. Accuracy was around 2 moa with factory ammo.
To the XCR convo I had one about 2 years ago, shot about 2000 rounds through it without one hiccup.. Accuracy was around 2 moa with factory ammo.
