Raging Bull vs Ruger Redhawk

Bojangles said:
Agreed! The Super Redhawk is better. However both the Redhawk and Super Redhawk are very fine revolvers.

Cheers!
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Could you quantify "better"? Just genuinely curious. I'm interested in the Redhawk 45Colt/ACP when we get them up here
 
Mark-II said:
Could you quantify "better"? Just genuinely curious. I'm interested in the Redhawk 45Colt/ACP when we get them up here
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As evidenced by the cartridge choices the Super Redhawk follows the connotations of it's name and can certainly call itself the stronger gun. Where the 'better' statement comes from for me is the traditional two-spring approach to the mechanism. One spring for the trigger return, one for the hammer. With the two spring approach the trigger is both better out of the box, and can be improved much more simply.

Now the Redhawk has an ingenious system using a single main spring which I feel is FAR more clever, but in reality clever does not trump the trigger feel at the end of the day.

That being said I see a custom Redhawk in the Bowen site, in my opinion equal parts because of the clever mechanism and the beautiful traditional lines of the pistol.
 
Redhawk, heavier DA and SA but no creep and very crisp...
SRH, smoother DA and very smooth SA, i would rate this very close to my 627 PC trigger...
I to will be getting the Redhawk 45LC/45ACP when they land... JP.
 
I can't tell you anything about the Raging Bull except what we read on the internet. I have a Ruger Redhawk (.44Magnum, 5.5 inch barrel) and I like it.
 
jzz30tt said:
As evidenced by the cartridge choices the Super Redhawk follows the connotations of it's name and can certainly call itself the stronger gun. Where the 'better' statement comes from for me is the traditional two-spring approach to the mechanism. One spring for the trigger return, one for the hammer. With the two spring approach the trigger is both better out of the box, and can be improved much more simply.

Now the Redhawk has an ingenious system using a single main spring which I feel is FAR more clever, but in reality clever does not trump the trigger feel at the end of the day.

That being said I see a custom Redhawk in the Bowen site, in my opinion equal parts because of the clever mechanism and the beautiful traditional lines of the pistol.
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I wonder if the SRH frame is in fact practically stronger. As you say, the RH has been chambered for some very heavy loads by Bowen. I understand that for the SRH in 454, the additional functional strength is a result of the stronger steel used for the cylinder (which also allowed ruger to keep it as a 6 shot instead of a 5).

It is my understanding that the SRH was designed, at least in part, in response to a frame cracking problems with the RH. It turned out, the problem was due to a particular bonding agent applied to the threading where the barrel screws into the frame. They fixed the problem and opted not to discontinue the RH (no doubt in part because there is a market for the more traditional design). Other than the original issue that was corrected, I have yet to read a case where someone has shot loose a RH (i certainly have not done an exhaustive search, but i have had my eye on various gun mags over the last few decades).

Also, I've read that some prefer / think the RH SA trigger is lighter out of the box, but the SRH is easier to tune. For me, having owned a RH and a GP100 (same internals as the SRH) can't say i noticed a huge difference in the SA triggers (granted i never did a side by side comparison).

Anyway, not trying to say the RH is as good or better than the SRH, but to me, the SRH seems to be an incremental improvement, not and evolutionary one. I would not pass on a RH, thinking the SRH was vastly superior.
 
My Ruger Redhawk 44 mag 4.2 inch is definitely as good of a shooter than my 629 and 29...
Ruger and S&W are really supplying great stuff... JP.
 
I love this thread. Considering I actually have all three beauties, its interesting to hear the different opinions. Of course some I agree with and some I don't. In order of personal preference I have to stand with the Taurus as 3rd (except for way-cool cosmetic appeal!) It'll shoot what you feed it but I wouldn't push the loads TOO far. The Redhawk wins it for me in the 'take a beating while keeping an elegant design attitude' whereas the SRH will shoot ANYTHING and come back for seconds. A real utilitarian tool that still manages to pull off an air of subtle beauty.
 
handofzeus said:
I love this thread. Considering I actually have all three beauties, its interesting to hear the different opinions. Of course some I agree with and some I don't. In order of personal preference I have to stand with the Taurus as 3rd (except for way-cool cosmetic appeal!) It'll shoot what you feed it but I wouldn't push the loads TOO far. The Redhawk wins it for me in the 'take a beating while keeping an elegant design attitude' whereas the SRH will shoot ANYTHING and come back for seconds. A real utilitarian tool that still manages to pull off an air of subtle beauty.
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I disagree, my RB's are my go to revolvers when I'm load testing really hot 44 mag and 454 Casull. Something else to consider is take a look at the revolvers Buffalo Bore "approves" for using their 44 mag +P+, both the Ruger and Taurus are on there, while others including S&W are not.

Either way you can feed a steady diet of full power loads through both the Ruger and Taurus without any worries.
 
I'm considering the Taurus only now.
I wanted the 6.5", but it is 200.00 more than the 5" (new stock vs old stock)
Not sure if the 1.5" longer barrel is worth 200 bucks!!! I already have a Rossi Lever in 454" in case I want to squeeze all the potential of the 454

The super redhawk is out of my list, it's not only too big (7.5"), but I'm having a hard time getting used to the way it looks....That barrel is just too weird for me.
If anyone is looking for one at a decent price, here is one for 1035.00

http://store.theshootingcentre.com/products/ruger-super-redhawk-454-casull

Now....if I had the cash to burn I'd take that S&W 460 Bone Collector out of EE. That thing is huge but it's a beauty!!!
 
caramel said:
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Hi Caramel,

How is your Burris scope holding up to the recoil of the Toklat?

Cheers!
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