So I had an idea come to me last night. Why not build a rail gun setup that could be used with remington short actions and clones? If I remember correctly Mystic built one years ago but it was a barrel clamp style. I was thinking one that actions could be bolted into and shot with zero shooter interference as well. Could be interesting to see how accuracy changes between that and a stock. Was also thinking about building a hydraulic trigger mechanism. So what do you fellas think? Has anybody tried something similar?
Rail guns
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Rail guns have been around for decades.... youtube search and you can find lots of vids.
There are shooting divisions dedicated to this tech....where I learnt for my project rifle
Jerry
There are shooting divisions dedicated to this tech....where I learnt for my project rifle
Jerry
I guess kind of like a led slead but better. It would be interesting to test rifles in something like that/do load development. Not sure why you couldnt bolt an action in?
I didnt mean bolt down to the bench, just bolted to the rail system instead of clamped in by the barrel. Would allow for running any contour barrel.
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big problem being, that having something heavy and solid that the action will bolt down into, will have different harmonics then having a human behind, will also change how the recoil pulse moves the rifle. that said, a load developed in such a contraption wont have any guarantee that it will produce the same results when put into a stock and shot by a person (even ignoring shooter skill)
But we dont know until we try right? It would be interesting to see if the kind of accuracy attainable would be the same with the rail vs a bedded stock. The “saddle” that the action would bolt into would ride on some type of linear bearings. It would be quite interesting to take rifles with a load they shoot great bolt into the rail contraption and see what happens, does sd change? Does poi change dramatically, maybe a great load in a stock is terrible out of it who knows? But it would be fun to find out.
The rail in the video is a young , barrel block style meaning the barrel is held in by the aluminum block or a Delron sleeve just ahead of the action , there are rails that hold the action but they are less popular and not what you usually see , rails are the best way to test any components , bullets , powder , scopes , anything you can think of, tune ( load ) and seating depth usually translate , what works in the rail will work in the bag gun. Powder charge may vary some depending more on the length of the barrel , there is a learning curve to shooting a rail well , even though they are heavy one needs to be smooth or they will not group. Bolting in an action would probably not be the best , an action block would be more suitable , lots of pics on the internet . Rails that are dialed in can shoot very small groups ,due to the tracking they get rid of the sight picture issues common with a bag gun .
Hope that helps answer some questions ,
Hope that helps answer some questions ,
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My son's ammo company used to make match ammo for snipers and for DCRA competition. The ammo was tested in a rail gun, like so:
308 -155gr Sierra 20 shots at 525 yards
This type of test proved that there were no bad fliers in the ammunition. 20 shots are fired in about 30 seconds, so wind is not an issue. It did nothing to prove that the ammo would group well in a shooter's rifle. That would depend on bedding and harmonics. For this reason, DCRA competitors would typically have 2 or 3 rifles and would use the one that got the best results.
For the average shooter, making his own ammo, he would be better off shooting his rifle off bags at 300 to 500 yards in his actual rifle.
We find that if the same reamer is used in both barrels , along with same powder and bullets , the best seating depth Will be the same and the powder will track , there is the odd exception when the bag gun likes more powder , this is attributed to the barrel being longer (maybe) .bag gun 22” vs rail 26-27” , the bag gun will sometimes take about .5 more .Sight picture ,poor front rest and rear bag set up , lack of wind flags ,poor bench manners and lack of bore maintenance are what cause most of the problems that get blamed on a “bad load” during load development , the rail gets rid of most of these issues , that’s why they are the best thing for testing lots of powder ,bullets and such , in the end it all needs to be tested in the rifle in the configuration that it will shoot , but the rail is a great way to sort through it very fast
I have done that with a rail gun , I machined a steel V block to accept rem sa , machined the action screw holes a little elongated to accommodate the slight difference in action length, which allows the use of the recoil lug , I also add lead shot weight to help manage recoil on the sled, I used the original scope mounted on the action for zeroing , I use a stiff light wire to pull the trigger , I have only load tested on 20 cal up to 223 , for use in the gopher patch , I can tell you though is... you can tune a really good load without human error , and it works in the stock if you have good trigger pull ability
I have 2 and both are in the shed put away , if your interested in in trying this
