What is the full chemical name for MEA? (Some of us are not chemists by profession.)
Stuart
Range Box container for Ed's Red? Substitutes for Lanolin?
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What is the full chemical name for MEA? (Some of us are not chemists by profession.)
Stuart
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Chinese "stainless steel" flasks leak through lettering
UPDATE 09-18-2011:
THE CHINESE "STAINLESS STEEL" FLASKS LEAK THROUGH THE LETTERING STAMPED ON THE BOTTOM!!
After mixing up my fresh batch of Ed's Red, I filled the flask with 5 oz of Ed's Red and set it on the bench while I capped and put away the larger storage container.
When I lifted the flask up, I found a puddle of Ed's Red underneath. Thinking I must have spilled, I thoroughly wiped down
the flask and cleaned the bench surface. I then placed the flask on a sheet of plain white paper.
I lifted the flask 30 seconds later and could read (very fuzzy and runny but readable, & reversed) "Made In China. Stainless Steel 5 oz." on the white paper.
I repeated this experiment a couple more times, each time ensuring that the outside of the container was wiped absolutely clean of Ed's Red. Each time I found a pool of solvent underneath the flask when I lifted it.
I put the flask upright in a shallow, solvent proof dish and left it. Within 2 hours over half the contents had drained out, presumably through microscopic holes in the stamped letters, since I had closely inspected the flask with a large magnifier and found no pores or open welds.
A warning to those of you who might plan on trying one of these flasks for solvent.
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Update to the update. I stopped by a couple of other dollar stores and picked up a couple more of the $2 flasks. Both leaked Ed's red through the lettering stamped on the bottom.
UPDATE 09-18-2011:
THE CHINESE "STAINLESS STEEL" FLASKS LEAK THROUGH THE LETTERING STAMPED ON THE BOTTOM!!
After mixing up my fresh batch of Ed's Red, I filled the flask with 5 oz of Ed's Red and set it on the bench while I capped and put away the larger storage container.
When I lifted the flask up, I found a puddle of Ed's Red underneath. Thinking I must have spilled, I thoroughly wiped down
the flask and cleaned the bench surface. I then placed the flask on a sheet of plain white paper.
I lifted the flask 30 seconds later and could read (very fuzzy and runny but readable, & reversed) "Made In China. Stainless Steel 5 oz." on the white paper.
I repeated this experiment a couple more times, each time ensuring that the outside of the container was wiped absolutely clean of Ed's Red. Each time I found a pool of solvent underneath the flask when I lifted it.
I put the flask upright in a shallow, solvent proof dish and left it. Within 2 hours over half the contents had drained out, presumably through microscopic holes in the stamped letters, since I had closely inspected the flask with a large magnifier and found no pores or open welds.
A warning to those of you who might plan on trying one of these flasks for solvent.
*******
Update to the update. I stopped by a couple of other dollar stores and picked up a couple more of the $2 flasks. Both leaked Ed's red through the lettering stamped on the bottom.
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A 1 litre aluminum MSR backpacker fuel bottle, meant for storing white gas (naptha, Coleman fuel) turned up at the pack of the paint cupboard.
Might work for the range box, although it's kind of large. Don't know if the plastic screw-in stopper will last, however.
Update October 7/2011: After three weeks, the plastic screw-in stopper on the MSR aluminum fuel bottle has been reduced to a soft glob of pyuck by the acetone. I was hoping that since they're white gas (naptha) proof, they might work. So much for that idea.
The plastic top on the 1 litre metal can that the Acetone came in seems unaffected by the Ed's Red. Have to keep an eye out for empty Acetone cans.
Might work for the range box, although it's kind of large. Don't know if the plastic screw-in stopper will last, however.
Update October 7/2011: After three weeks, the plastic screw-in stopper on the MSR aluminum fuel bottle has been reduced to a soft glob of pyuck by the acetone. I was hoping that since they're white gas (naptha) proof, they might work. So much for that idea.
The plastic top on the 1 litre metal can that the Acetone came in seems unaffected by the Ed's Red. Have to keep an eye out for empty Acetone cans.
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monoethanolamineWhat is the full chemical name for MEA? (Some of us are not chemists by profession.)
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My mother, a truly pragmatic Scots woman, admonished me on the phone just now, after I had related this story,
"Aye,weell, thank goodness it wasn't filled with anything important, like Glenlivet".
A truly pragmatic soul.
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Things you never knew about Lanolin and probably wouldn't bother to ask. I got curious as to what all the fuss was about and looked up a few tidbits
- lanolin is devoid of glycerides and is in fact a wax, not a fat.
- lanolin has a complex and variable composition. . . high purity lanolin is composed predominantly of long chain waxy esters . . . there may be between 8,000 and 20,000 different types of lanolin ester present in lanolin. There is no natural or synthetic substance that has the same qualities and behaviours as lanolin.
(You can just drop that one into conversation over a cuppa at Tim's)
- Lanolin is often used by baseball players to soften and break in their baseball gloves. . . also as a lubricant for brass instrument tuning slides.
- Lanolin is used commercially in many industrial products ranging from rust-proof coatings to lubricants. Some sailors use lanolin to create a slippery surface on their propellers and stern gear to which barnacles cannot adhere. The water-repellent properties make it valuable as a lubricant grease where corrosion would otherwise be a problem.
Reading that last item, maybe Ed knew it would be a useful addition.
My mother, a truly pragmatic Scots woman, admonished me on the phone just now, after I had related this story,
"Aye,weell, thank goodness it wasn't filled with anything important, like Glenlivet".
A truly pragmatic soul.
And one with impeccable taste.
But surely you WOULDN'T put Glenlivet (or insert single-malt of choice here) in a cheap, Chinese-made flask!
Och, nooooo... the horror! (Or, conversely, put Ed's Red in a sterling flask...) StuartThings you never knew about Lanolin and probably wouldn't bother to ask. I got curious as to what all the fuss was about and looked up a few tidbits
- lanolin is devoid of glycerides and is in fact a wax, not a fat.
- lanolin has a complex and variable composition. . . high purity lanolin is composed predominantly of long chain waxy esters . . . there may be between 8,000 and 20,000 different types of lanolin ester present in lanolin. There is no natural or synthetic substance that has the same qualities and behaviours as lanolin.
(You can just drop that one into conversation over a cuppa at Tim's)
- Lanolin is often used by baseball players to soften and break in their baseball gloves. . . also as a lubricant for brass instrument tuning slides.
- Lanolin is used commercially in many industrial products ranging from rust-proof coatings to lubricants. Some sailors use lanolin to create a slippery surface on their propellers and stern gear to which barnacles cannot adhere. The water-repellent properties make it valuable as a lubricant grease where corrosion would otherwise be a problem.
Reading that last item, maybe Ed knew it would be a useful addition.
"long chain waxy esters"?? Are we allowed to talk about stuff like that on here?
And MEA (thanks for the clarification, Chris) is in all sorts of things, like Ivory Liquid and various hair colouring potions!
Stuart
Regarding lanolin - if you've been working on cars you've undoubtedly found it in your hand cleaners.
I did a quick search found it in small quantities:
http://www.shopping.com/Now-Foods-NOW-Foods-Lanolin-Pure-5-oz-Now-Foods/info
I did a quick search found it in small quantities:
http://www.shopping.com/Now-Foods-NOW-Foods-Lanolin-Pure-5-oz-Now-Foods/info
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- Alberta Free State
"long chain waxy esters"?? Are we allowed to talk about stuff like that on here?
And MEA (thanks for the clarification, Chris) is in all sorts of things, like Ivory Liquid and various hair colouring potions!
Well, long chain waxy esters _is_ a pretty slippery subject.....
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- Alberta Free State
Paatz,
Many thanks for this link. I'll keep checking with the health food stores, since pharmacies around here no longer carry lanolin as a stock item.
Wish there were some of these sellers with a Canadian addresses. Every time I order something from the U.S. and the seller ships via UPS, UPS tacks on a $37 - $50 "customs brokerage fee" - often on an item costing only a few dollars.
It's enough to give a gopher the heartburn.
Republic of Alberta
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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I went to the local phamacist (Rexall) and had them order me in some Lanolin. It was cheap for the amount I got (enough for life).
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- Alberta Free State
I checked with several pharmacies and all could get a 500 ml jar as a special order. However, there is a drugstore dealing mainly in veterinary and pet medications, Whyte Avenue just east of 75th street. They have the jars of pure anhydrous lanolin in stock. Go figure.
OK, you need to do the brokering yourself, it's a ripoff.
IF you live close enough to the UPS office and Customs it's easy to do.
Just tell the driver you'll broker it yourself and he sends it back to the warehouse.
You just need to pick up the paperwork at the UPS office and take it to customs, pay duty, get it stamped, then go pick up your package.
I use the small plastic bottles from 2-cycle oil containers that you add/mix with your gas. The ones that you would use for your chainsaw or weed eater. Peel the label off and mark it with a felt pen. They hold one or two hundred mills of fluid. Perfect size for a range box.
I keep one in every truck and range box/cleaning kit.
I keep one in every truck and range box/cleaning kit.
I keep my Ed's Red in various sized Nalgene bottles.
I tried the cheap Hip Flasks and discoverd the screw top is plastic. A nice sof mushy plastic after the Acetone got to work on it.
The Lanolin will protect against rust for years.
I tried the cheap Hip Flasks and discoverd the screw top is plastic. A nice sof mushy plastic after the Acetone got to work on it.
The Lanolin will protect against rust for years.
