range finders

I recieved my Leica 1200crf-y yesterday and damn near wore out the first battery..lol:redface: i was ranging EVERYTHING and ANYTHING because I didnt believe the #'s

SOOOOO I got out the steel 100 ' tape and found the rangefinder was MUCH more accurate than my "estimates" :eek:..

Brought the unit to work and did some more practicing..yesterday KI ranged a cow on a open field at 775 yards...the longest was a metal mail box type structure at 1080 yards..

I like the small compact size and the red colors of the yardage..instantly readable...

The longest I would be prepared to shoot would be in the 450 -500 yards WITH this rangefinder AND my new leupold Boone and Crockett reticle scope..hell If I truly know what my longets shot has been because as the last 24 hours shows..I SUCK @ estimating apparantly..:p

Steven
 
I found I was grossly over estimating yardage. One thing I found with the leica is sometimes I can range the same object and get different readings, always in a "busy" field of view, I just do a few more readings to confirm. Thinking the laser can reflect off of anything in the square and it may not be the object you think you are ranging. Quite happy with the overall performance and the red display is great for night use:cool:
 
I got my Swaro back from austria yesterday, at least I think its mine(it looks brand new). They sent me back the unit fixed, 2 new batteries and a new neck strap. All free of charge of course. It took about six week from the day it was shipped, all in all I'm happy with the service.

Ivo
 
The Leica 1200 is $680 at RussellSports and the Leica 900 is $580, so my question would be, why do you need a 1200 yard rangefinder? The CRF 900 is the same technology but only ranges to 900 yards.

I'm thinking about getting one for my antelope hunt in October.
 
Just got a Bushnell 1500 a few weeks ago and I am happy with it.
Easy to use, haven't set the BDC yet tho'.
Clear optics and seems to be dead on when I checked it at the range.
I'm not shooting at things that are going to be more than 200 - 300 yards so I can't see the point of paying a lot more for what I don't need.
 
The Leica 1200 is $680 at RussellSports and the Leica 900 is $580, so my question would be, why do you need a 1200 yard rangefinder? The CRF 900 is the same technology but only ranges to 900 yards.

I'm thinking about getting one for my antelope hunt in October.

Please, anyone, correct me if I'm wrong here.

Mainly the 1200 is under ideal conditions. Add a non-reflective target, rain, snow, bush, etc. and that 1200 yards typically adjusts downwards. Same goes for the 900. The 1200 just gives you that little bit extra performance.

It depends what sort of hunting you want to do whether the extra distance is worth it. As many have said, if most shots you plan to take are 300 yards max, the cheaper model will probably work for you for range verification; you might even consider not going with a Leica. With hunting antelope, though, you might like the extra distance for helping you plan your stalk.

The bonus of a Leica or Swaro is you get a great quality monocular to glass with. The negative is the cost.

I got a CRF 1200 last year from P&D and really like it. It is small enough for a shirt pocket, just large enough to hold steady (although I find holding sideways like a minibino more comfortable), and isn't loaded with a dozen different programs - just point and click.

Lazed everything and anything when I got it, too. It is amazing to realize how terrible your own range estimations were/are.

I've been playing "How Far Away Is That?" at least once a week for the last year. The hot blonde woman across the street is 69 yrds away usually, lol (just kidding). The point is you can make getting better at eyeballing distances a fun challenge. A long road with telephone poles is good, a pasture with hay bales is great, a pasture with real deer so much better. Even seeing if your club range really is bang on 300 yards is fun.

If you do go for the Leica, remember to specify you want the "meters" version or the "yards" version as both are out there.

Final advice: remember to take an extra set of batteries for the laser in your kit. Learned that one the hard way.
 
I'd get the Swarovski...

http://demigodllc.com/articles/practical-long-range-rifle-shooting-equipment/
Range-Finder Selection
Knowing the range of the target is critical to making long-range hits. Between 500 and 1000 yards, the best .308 Winchester loads are dropping at one inch every four yards forward travel, up to one inch every yard forward travel. For example, at 700 yards, it drops at about 1/2" per yard. If a target is 16" in diameter (a pretty large target) and the shooter aims at the center, he has 8" of vertical error margin.

This margin is used up by rifle and shooter accuracy, accuracy of "data book" drop values compared to current real conditions and load, and ranging error. If we look only at ranging error, that 8" of error margin translates into 16 yards. In other words, the estimated range which is used to look up the drop value, must be within plus or minus 16 yards of the real value. If his range estimate is 25 yards short, the bullet will be 12.5" low, and it will miss the target.

There are basically two methods to range long-distance targets. The first method is to "mil" the targets, which means that if the shooter knows the physical dimensions of a distant object, he can use reticle features to compare the apparent size, and use that information to calculate the object's distance. This is the most basic skill and something that every long-range shooter should know how to do, but is error-prone because of three main reasons: 1. object dimensions are not always known, or known accurately; 2. accurately measuring the object's apparent size in the reticle (in mils or MOA), is not precise; and 3. doing math in the field under time pressure is error prone. (I will cover milling targets in a later section of this article series.)

The other common method to determine target distance is to use a laser range finder (LRF). These work by bouncing an infra-red (invisible) laser beam off the object and using a computer to turn the time it took to get there and back into a distance in yards or meters. Laser range finders generally work pretty will within their maximum range in good optical conditions, but their performance will degrade when target reflectivity is low, there is sun flare, or the line of sight is not clear.

The Laser Range-finder (LRF) is a key tool for determining target distance
Both monocular and binocular laser range-finders are available. A monocular only has one optic that you can look through, just like a rifle scope or camera, but the binoculars operate like regular binoculars except they have a laser range-finder built in. Binocular LRFs are better for spotting and target location, but they are larger and more expensive.

I recommend four range-finders:

Burris 7x40 binocular, max 1500 yards. This LRF has relatively poor optics and is large, but it ranges well. $650.

Leica 1200 / 1200 Scan monocular, max 1200 yards. This LRF has good optics and is nice and compact. $650. If pressed for price, the 1200 and 1200 Scan models can be found for as cheap as $350 used. This is the best buy.

Leica Geovid binoculars, 8x or 10x magnification, max 1300 yards. This LRF has great optics and ranges well, but is large. It is the ultimate tool for target location, spotting, and ranging within 1000 yards. $1800 - 2100.

Swarovski 8x Laser Guide monocular, max 2000 yards. This LRF has good optics and is nice and compact. It ranges further than anything under $6000. Price is $900 new, $700 used. To get 2x the ranging ability, you have to spend at least 10x the cost of the range-finder. If you regularly need to range targets from 800-2000 yards, this is the best choice. Its only downside is the large reticle which is hard to pinpoint on targets.
 
I have owned a number of range finders but I always found when it was at first or last light you could never see out of the darn things. SO I bought the leica 8 X 56 range finders. I know they are expensive but so is hunting. To me they are worth every penny. Optically they are very close to my zeiss and swarovski binoculars.
 
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Are those the Leica RF bino's that list for around $2200? I tried a pair a fellow had with him and man were they great in the mountains. Super clear bino's that I could range Stone sheep at 1100 yards plus with (just wish I could seriously justify them)
 
Yeah, those are the ones but the 8 X 56 are a few hundred more. They are so good I am having a hard time justifying keeping the other german glass. Incidently the swarovski's are better binoculars ( even better than the zeiss) but just slightly so.
 
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