Range Finding Reticle
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Anyone know how this particular reticle works? I have come into possession of a scope that uses this thing and can't find any info on it at all.
Funny you posted this. I was just about to start a topic on it. Hope you don`t mind that I also throw a question up on your post.
Everyone knows: When hunting coyote, you don`t have any time at all to pull out the range finder. Is there such a scope that will post the yardage on "whatever" you set the crosshairs on??? If not, it sure would be an awesome feature. No, I`m not thinking about the mildot reticles, I`d like something that acually shows the yardage.
waynewjw
CGN Regular
Fitco Scope
Looks like a reticle from a Fitco scope. And yes, a number of companies have scopes with built in range finders - Bushnell around $900 all the way up to Zeiss around $6000.
Zeiss Z-series (600,800,1000) are great for accuracy with their Z-reticles, just set up at the range of the target and pull the trigger.
Looks like a reticle from a Fitco scope. And yes, a number of companies have scopes with built in range finders - Bushnell around $900 all the way up to Zeiss around $6000.
Zeiss Z-series (600,800,1000) are great for accuracy with their Z-reticles, just set up at the range of the target and pull the trigger.
plainSight Solutions
Regular
One of the most effective, and affordable, systems available is the Zeiss Rapid-Z. Essentially you select the appropriate reticle (z-600, z-800, z-1000 or z-varmint) for your caliber, and then use the Rapid-Z calculator to calibrate the scope/reticle to your specific load.
The Rapid-Z have numbers on each subtension line (i.e. 1 through 6 for the z-600), when properly calibrated, then represent the respective 100 yard marker (i.e. 1 = 100 yards, 2 = 200 yards, and so on). There are also incremental subtensions between the 100 yard markers for 150, 250, etc...
Thus, when properly setup, you just need to know the range to target, hold on the correct subtension line and pull the trigger. I use a rapid z-1000 on one of my .308's that I use for coyotes and I really dig it...the dogs, not so much...
Other tier-one scope manufacturers have similar systems (Swarovski has the BRX and BRH reticles, Nightforce has the velocity reticles, Leica has the ballistic and new IBS-G7 reticle) however none are as affordable as the Conquest line. There are also tier-two and tier-three scope manufacturers who produce similar reticles that are also effective, however to reiterate, the most affordable, tier-one product is found in the Zeiss Conquest line.
I have a promo starting on the Conquest line. For example the 3-9x40 rapid z-600 is on for $599, down from $689.99.
689.99 is the same price at WSS. $599 is a good deal.
bearkilr
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While the Conquest is a great scope for the money, I think it's a bit of a stretch to place it in what you call the "tier 1" category.
plainSight Solutions
Regular
Granted it is a sticky point: Zeiss is a top tier manufacturer, however the Conquest line is their "value" offering (i.e. it is not a Victory Diavari). This strategy is becoming more common (i.e. Swarovski with the CL binos at $999 and Leica with the new Trinovids at $1,499) as these companies are offering premium, entry-level products aimed at lower price-points.
The salient point is that it is manufactured by Zeiss, who stand behind a Conquest scope the same as they would stand behind a Diavari.
Anyone know how this particular reticle works? I have come into possession of a scope that uses this thing and can't find any info on it at all.
About the best I could find to do with that reticle was to determine at what power the distance between the markings is one mil. For a 6-24x50 scope I have, I determined that to be at 12x setting. Once you determine that, you have mils by which you can measure distance after estimating height. A 36" fencepost should fill one mil at 1000 yards.
All that nonsense on the bottom the stadia, looks like something they copied off an anti tank gun. I couldn't find any use for it. The mil marks however, are very usefull.
plainSight Solutions
Regular
Mr. Suputin:
I am a supporting dealer of this site: note the text under my username. The subject of the rapid z was raised so my info and suggestions are relevant to the questions raised. It is accepted for dealers to provide information, advice, and/or suggestions within threads, and you will find board dealers such as ATRS, Mystic Precision, and many others doing this.
The ironic thing is that I've sent images of your reticle to a few of my contacts who should know something. Aside from getting your nose out of joint, there should be some information incoming.
Regardless, you comment is warranted if I wasn't a supporting dealer for this site, but in this instance I'm going to ask you nicely to retract your accusation and threat.
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Anyone know how this particular reticle works? I have come into possession of a scope that uses this thing and can't find any info on it at all.
I saw a reticle similar to this in a scope that was mounted on a crossbow, this was a long time ago, mid to late 80s I think. The reticle only had the lower curving section with the multiple lines, not the upper area with the nicely spaced subtensions. The idea was that what ever bracket the deer fit into determined the approximate range to the animal. All you had to do was bracket the deer in the appropriate area of the reticle and fire. As I recall, it was of low quality and limited use due to varying body sizes in deer.
As far as scopes with built in laser range finders, I think there are a few on the market with the Burris Eliminator coming to mind as probably the most affordable, but I am not really familiar with this type of scope so there could be something less expensive. I know a fellow who used the Eliminator last year on several hunts and he said it worked well for him.
plainSight Solutions
Regular
That didn't take long at all: it is an Osprey Tactical illuminated range finding reticle.
Here is a link to a pdf with info on their products. Details on the reticle can be found on page 18:
http://www.osprey-optics.com/2010_OSPREY_CATALOG.pdf
Here is a cut and paste of the relevant info:
"The Range Finder Reticle is designed to enhance the long range accuracy and ranging capabilities of the average shooter. The range finder reticle has two separate parts; the first part is the aiming reticle, while the second half is a “choke style” range estimator. The hash marks in the center part of the reticle are spaced in 5 MOA increments from one another. This is used to quickly determine the size of larger objects, as well as be used for bullet drop compensation for long range targets. (1 MOA is equal to 1 inch at 100 yards, thus 5 MOA is equal to 5 inches at 100 yards).
The range finding “choke” in the lower portion of the reticle is a pair of curved lines that taper down. The “choke” has a series of horizontal lines that correspond to a specific range in yards. This “choke” is calibrated for the average sized human shoulder width of 18 inches.
You will be able to estimate the distance of a human silhouette or any other 18 inch wide target. To utilize the “choke” reticle, you will need to bracket the edges of the target between the tapering choke lines.
After bracketing the target in the choke, count the number of lines down the choke to determine the target distance. The top line is equal to 100 yards with each line below being further in 25 yard increments.
The “choke” lines are not intended to be used as a ballistic reticle. This portion of the reticle is only intended for the range estimation of an 18 inch target. After “ranging” your target, make the appropriate adjustments to the Bullet Drop Compensator (BDC) if equipped on your scope, or adjust your scope’s elevation to compensate for the bullet drop at the determined range."
Interesting reticle.
You're welcome.
Here is a link to a pdf with info on their products. Details on the reticle can be found on page 18:
http://www.osprey-optics.com/2010_OSPREY_CATALOG.pdf
Here is a cut and paste of the relevant info:
"The Range Finder Reticle is designed to enhance the long range accuracy and ranging capabilities of the average shooter. The range finder reticle has two separate parts; the first part is the aiming reticle, while the second half is a “choke style” range estimator. The hash marks in the center part of the reticle are spaced in 5 MOA increments from one another. This is used to quickly determine the size of larger objects, as well as be used for bullet drop compensation for long range targets. (1 MOA is equal to 1 inch at 100 yards, thus 5 MOA is equal to 5 inches at 100 yards).
The range finding “choke” in the lower portion of the reticle is a pair of curved lines that taper down. The “choke” has a series of horizontal lines that correspond to a specific range in yards. This “choke” is calibrated for the average sized human shoulder width of 18 inches.
You will be able to estimate the distance of a human silhouette or any other 18 inch wide target. To utilize the “choke” reticle, you will need to bracket the edges of the target between the tapering choke lines.
After bracketing the target in the choke, count the number of lines down the choke to determine the target distance. The top line is equal to 100 yards with each line below being further in 25 yard increments.
The “choke” lines are not intended to be used as a ballistic reticle. This portion of the reticle is only intended for the range estimation of an 18 inch target. After “ranging” your target, make the appropriate adjustments to the Bullet Drop Compensator (BDC) if equipped on your scope, or adjust your scope’s elevation to compensate for the bullet drop at the determined range."
Interesting reticle.
You're welcome.
