Range question for stock 10/22

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So I have been out a few times (pretty new) and shooting targets at around 50yrds. The other day was the first time I had a chance to shoot at 100yrds. I had to shoot like 13" higher than the target to hit it. I mean, I was shooting at the top of the paper and just getting the bottom. Is this normal?? Do the majority dial in their scopes for 100 yards then??
 
i dont know if thats a normal ammo thing with a .22 or that your gun is just made bad. ive not heard good things about those 10/22's, i hear that the accuracy is garbage but thats just talk. i have no experience with a 10/22, so really this response is no help to you and im just wasting both of our time. sorry
 
What kind of ammunition were you using? :yingyang:

(Edit: I didn't read the OP properly re: 100 yards...:eek:)

And, silly question....:redface:...where are you placing the target re: the front sight's "post"? ......:confused:
 
13"... Thats about right for a .22 @ 100 if it is zero'd at 25. (at least with all of my .22's)

Factory 10/22's get a bad rap IMHO, don't get me wrong, there are issues from time to time. If you break them in (say 500 to 1000 rnds) they usually work pretty good.

Don't get me wrong, I have a bone stock model, and a pimped out one too. The pimped out one (with a GM barrel) shoots WAAAY better than the stock sporter barrel, but the stock one is still good for 'minute of gopher' at 50 yrds.

Get out there and blast off those rounds, and have fun! :D

Cheers!
 
i dont know if thats a normal ammo thing with a .22 or that your gun is just made bad. ive not heard good things about those 10/22's, i hear that the accuracy is garbage but thats just talk. i have no experience with a 10/22, so really this response is no help to you and im just wasting both of our time. sorry

Posting is always constructive to me. Thanks for your time.

I was using the federal red box ammo. As long as its not way off then Im okay. So do most people dial in their scopes for 50 yrds then??
 
I have a target model but I sight mine in at 50yards and when I shoot at 100 I just mark the zero for 50 with a marker on the knob and then sight in for 100. I was able to zero mine in at 150 yards too, scope was almost maxed out.

Shooting at 100 yards is very iffy and ammo dependant. Some shoots better groups than others, out that far any wind is going to affect it greatly and you can really see the downfalls of cheap ammo when it hits the paper.
 
With my 10/22 (green mountain barrel) zero'd at 50 yards, I have to go up 6 moa to zero at 100 yards with American Eagle 40 grain bullets, and 5 moa with Federal 36 grain.

2 moa pretty much gets me to zero at 75 yards with either bullet. I calculate, but haven't tried this, but 23 moa should take me out to 200 yards.

This is using a Leupold clone with externally adjustable turrets.
 
With my 10/22 (green mountain barrel) zero'd at 50 yards, I have to go up 6 moa to zero at 100 yards with American Eagle 40 grain bullets, and 5 moa with Federal 36 grain.

2 moa pretty much gets me to zero at 75 yards with either bullet. I calculate, but haven't tried this, but 23 moa should take me out to 200 yards.

This is using a Leupold clone with externally adjustable turrets.

22 MOA for Winchester Xperts in my set-up gets me out to ~200yards. Now that I've got a sloped base I need to start looking at a range finder.
Cheers,
Grant
 
Some stock 10/22's can do very well at 100 yards. A friend of mine was shooting his at 100 and he was hitting very accurately. But, at 100 yards, anything that isn't right, ammo, loose scope mount, barrel band, receiver to stock screw, shifting about can make it all go to hell and give the gun an undeserved bad reputation. I don't feel I can count on my 10/22 to shoot as consistently as my CZ452, but there's times when it just doesn't matter and an autoloader with a 25 round mag is more fun.
 
My wife was shooting at a 3" gong at 100 yards the other day with my 10/22. I have the scope zeroed at 50 yards with Winchester Dynapoints. It hit almost exactly 6" low at 100 yards and she could hit that gong 90% of the time. (I could only hit it about 50% of the time :redface: ). This is with a stock 16" carbine barrel. Considering that this is not a match barrel or match ammo, 3moa is perfectly acceptable accuracy for me.

mmatt
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My 10/22 zeroed at 50 shoots 24 clicks (6 MOA) up at 100 with CCI MiniMags and 21 clicks up (5.25 MOA) with Stingers. The accuracy award goes to the MiniMags though.
 
Friend was shooting a bunch of stingers the other day, they were shooting high at 50 compared to others.

However those things were throwing sparks everywhere, lots of unburnt powder left in the casing.
 
I would suggest zeroing the scope at the distance you usually shoot (often this is 50 yds.) Then write down the settings or mark the turret. Then zero again at 100 yds and record that. Some scopes with BDC dials include a blank elevation dial that you can mark yourself - this is really convenient.

If the scope is zeroed at 50 yds you can expect a shot held on target to shoot about 6 to 9 inches low at 100, depending on the ammunition. Standard velocity will drop more than HV, but is usually a little more accurate at longer distances. When you want to shoot at 100 turn it to your marked settings. This will work fairly well, but you may have to adjust a little for the ammunition and conditions. The windage setting, once made, should be alright for any distance, though you may want to adjust it for the conditions at any particular shooting session.

Some silhouette shooters write the settings for the various target ranges on a piece of paper and tape it to their rifles.

If funds permit, it's very nice to have one rifle/scope for 50 yds and another for 100.
 
Some stock 10/22's can do very well at 100 yards. A friend of mine was shooting his at 100 and he was hitting very accurately. But, at 100 yards, anything that isn't right, ammo, loose scope mount, barrel band, receiver to stock screw, shifting about can make it all go to hell and give the gun an undeserved bad reputation. I don't feel I can count on my 10/22 to shoot as consistently as my CZ452, but there's times when it just doesn't matter and an autoloader with a 25 round mag is more fun.


Couple of questions, what does the barrel band have to do with it? You mean it would be better free floating?? What does the receiver to stock screw have to do with it??
 
The moa stuff is confusing me a little? When you say 24 click is equal to 6 moa?? Is that cause its 1/4" per click, so thats 24/4 = 6 moa??
 
The moa stuff is confusing me a little? When you say 24 click is equal to 6 moa?? Is that cause its 1/4" per click, so thats 24/4 = 6 moa??
For 100 yards you are right on the money as 1 MOA roughly equals 1" @ 100 or 1/2" @ 50 or 2" @ 200. The 1/4" per click @100 on the scope but 4 clicks equal 1 MOA of angle. I find MOA easier to calculate in my head.
 
Couple of questions, what does the barrel band have to do with it? You mean it would be better free floating?? What does the receiver to stock screw have to do with it??

His standard light barrelled 10/22 has the barrel band. It was shooting awesome at 100 yards, then next time out, it was shooting the ####s. He later determined that the screw through the stock into the receiver had loosened off. There was likely all sorts of varying forces on the barrel through the band, as the parts moved about. Threw his point of impact off and all over. He went from often hitting 12 gauge hulls at 100 yards to missing by a foot and a half at times.

Point of the story I was trying to make is that you need parts tight, properly fitted and consistent to have the gun shoot accurately. Someone might mistake those problems for it being a poor gun, but any gun could have those problems.
 
I had a 1022 and they are fun to shoot but it is hard to get accuracy from a semi since the bolt is moving around while the bullet is in the barrel. I decided accuracy was more important after awhile and had 2 choices 1:spend a whack of cash to make it maybe just good or 2: buy another rifle. Sold it and bought a bolt action CZ that is a tack driver right out of the box. My Winnie lever 1022 was so much more accurate than the 1022 and that started me on that path. Now I have both the 1022 and a CZ452 that are more accurate than I am. I can live with that and both are fun too. I have seen guys on this site spend $1000 to get a pimped up 1022 that still shoots just ok. Besides all that if you want accuracy at 100yds with a 22 get a bolt action. You are never going to see a 1022 shooting competition-everything is bolt.
If you have the cash get both and be real happy. 22s are cheap mostly.
 
I have my Savage Mk2 .22LR (bolt) sighted for 50m, and at 100m the POI is about 2.5 mil down. 2.5 mils = 25 cm or about 9 inches at 100m.

As for accuracy, at 50m I can sometimes put several rounds in the same hole, then I shoot a bunch of 1 or 2" groups. Not sure what's that about.

At 100m it widens up a lot, roughly a 4 or 6" group.
 
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