Range Report: My 'new' 123 year-old Winchester 1873

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Rifle: Winchester 1873, 44 WCF (aka 44-40), received in warehouse August 1, 1889

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Groove diameter: I pounded a .4305 diameter soft lead bullet down the bore, thinking that would be wide enough. Upon exiting, I could see that the lead slug had not even touched the bottoms of the grooves. This old 44-40 has a groove diameter of at least .431 if not even bigger.

Bullet: 200 grain plain base bullet from Lyman mould 427666, using wheel weights sized to .429.

Load: 18.5 grains of 5744 for about 1,286 fps. Here's a photo of my cartridges ....

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I was not at all optimistic about this first range trial because my lead bullets were undersize by at least .002 if not more. I expected that leading would commence fairly rapidly and within one or two shots, I would not even be on paper. 18.5 grains of 5744 gave me original black powder ballistics, but with a significantly lower peak pressure, which would make it unlikely that the bullet would be bumped up to seal the throat. Regardless, I decided to head off to the range to establish a lower baseline for bad loads.

Shooting set-up: For fine shooting were accuracy is important, I use my shooting bag for a rest. I don't have one of those fancy expensive bench rests, but someday I'd like to get one. I rested my left fist on a pile I made up of my iPhone with my wallet stacked on top of it. The rear stock then rested on my fist, which sat on top of that little pile. Here's a photo of my shooting set-up ....

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Results:

Since I had no idea where the sights pointed, I took a shot at 50 yards to see if I was on paper (8 ½" x 11). The windage looked good and I was a bit high. I figured I should be good for 100 yards, so I took a shot at 100 yards and went down to look at it. Bang on. I then changed the paper and went back and took 3 careful shots. It was hard because that front sight was blurry what with my old eyes and the wind making them teary. Then I went down to check. What a surprise! The three shots gave me a group of 2 1/8" at 100 yards. This old '73 has potential, as I'm sure that group was a bit loose due to the fact that the sights were blurry. A younger fellow could really drive tacks with this old gun. Here's the target ....

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I then put up a fresh sheet and used my last five rounds. Two of the shots were right on where they should be. The third was a couple inches left and high, and the last two were just off the paper to the right. I figured the old '73 was starting to lead up with those undersize bullets. Still, the first 7 rounds were all bang on. I went home and peered down the barrel. Clean and shiny from the muzzle end, but looking through the breech end, it looked like leading in the grooves just forward of the chamber. When I shoved that first piece of flannel soaked in Hoppes No. 9 down the bore, I could feel increasing rough friction as the patch got hear the bore. It actually cleaned out quite easily. Perhaps it is due to the fact that this bore is shiny, smooth and pretty much mint. (Don, I'm getting some turpentine tomorrow).

Next Steps:

I have to bump up the bullet to fill the throat. I have three options:

1. According to my copy of a Winchester 1896 catalogue, their 44 WCF (44-40) bullets were made of 'pure lead'. Those would bump up easier that wheel weights. I plan to make me some this weekend.

2. Use FFFg. That will give me a nice sharp pressure spike significantly higher than my 5744 load.

3. Use a faster smokeless powder to give me a pressure spike closer to FFFg.

I could also go with a combination of pure lead bullet and faster powder. I think I'll start with a pure lead bullet and my 5744 load.
 
I think jacketed factory ammo would solve the leading, but I hate buying factory ammo for anything. Aside from 22 rimfire, I can't recall buying any factory ammo for about 7 years. I am seriously considering having a custom mould made if the pure lead bullets don't bump up enough.
 
Nice piece of old iron.

Before you change anything, try a gas check on a few bullets. With that group at 100 with open sights, I'd experiment with gas checking to lessen the leading, first. It might just be the rear of the bullet melting, causing the leading.
 
WOW.

I just love range reports like this. I don't there is anything more rewarding than seeing these old rifles shoot well.

The local black powder geek around here has an Italian repro and he was ringing the gong at 200 with a regularity that had even the scope rifle guys agog. I don't know if it is true or not but he told me that if you are using the right amount of bullet lube you should see a very light film of it around the muzzle after firing. He was using cast lead too!
 
I don't think there were any 44 Sp Winchesters in the early to mid 1900's. I know there weren't any in the late 1800's. The 44 Sp has a different shaped case from the 44-40 and a slightly different bullet diameter.
 
Thanks again guys,I was looking through Wikipedia on Winchesters,but could not
find that caliber. I really like the 44-40,but as a handgun,it is limited to the range,
I would not be able to enjoy the one round two gun theme.

Looks like two rounds two guns.
 
I would not be able to enjoy the one round two gun theme.
Looks like two rounds two guns.

Hello Budman,

I am not sure if I'm getting what you're asking but yes you can have the 44-40 in both guns...revolver and rifle (picture)! Also look at the cartridges in the picture, you'll see that (what Win 38-55 was telling you) the cases of the 44-40 are bottle shaped!
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Yes my friend,I did see those awesome guns,The reason I asked is,the 44-40
handgun is restricted unlike the 44spl, so I would not be able to use it here on
the farm legally. If I am correct,the 44-40 is a 44cal case necked down to a
40cal round. But the title says 44wcf (aka 44-40) with his measurements at
QUOTE "I pounded a .4305 diameter soft lead bullet down the bore, thinking that would be wide enough. Upon exiting, I could see that the lead slug had not even touched the bottoms of the grooves. This old 44-40 has a groove diameter of at least .431 if not even bigger."
 
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