Range Report: Ruger 10/22 vs Savage Mark II

Guys. guys. Stop arguing. I think the most important part of this thread is that dastt shot only 7 times but mysteriously got 10 projectiles.

In the summer we put 10 golf balls on a hay bail at about 100 yards.

I was 6/10 in the first 7 shots.

Maybe I just got lucky with a fairly accurate stock 10/22
 
Ammo makes a difference for me. I did some testing at about 35m with my bone stock 10/22, 10 rounds. Remington Golden Bullet is the worst, about 3-4" groups.
The best I've found so far is RWS Rifle Match, makes a ragged hole the size of a dime, maybe smaller- $68 a brick.

I'm trying anything I can find for under $100 a brick.

This matches my experience; with Stingers my 10/22 patterns like a shotgun; with Eley Target yellow box I'd get one-hole ten-round groups at 25 yards. Unfortunately they don't seem to make it anymore.

My Mk.II is, however, more accurate than my 10/22. So I have the Mk.II set up with a scope and bipod for when I'm in an accuracy kind of mood, and I've got the 10/22 set up with Tech Sights and a shooting sling as kind of a Chibi-14.
 
In all seriousness though. The stock 10/22 I bought last fall was quite accurate. It's most likely a crap shoot if you get a good one or not. It all depends one what someone is looking for in their first .22. If you're looking for specifically accuracy I would definitely go with the Savage.
 
its like compairing Watermelons to pear's, both are fruit but compleatly differnt flavors , If you dont like your 10/22 sell it , if you want something to tinker with keep it , its that simple . Did you really think that a stock 10/22 is more accurate than a bolt action rifle? are people arguing that? is that really the case ? I havent heard to much of that argument . As for people recomending a first .22 rifle ? its there choice , I always what are you looking for ?accuracy, bolt,semi, etc...........
 
IMHO, no matter how well that Savage shoots, it is still a Savage.

in that logic,

no matter how bad *insert your fav brand*, its still a * your fav brand* :cool:

back to the main argument.IMO some guns are made to shoot accurate, some are made for cheap trigger time fun. most guns have their role in the market.. i have 2 rim fire rifle ,my savage 93 is for precision shooting, my 1022 is for plinking/ trigger time fun. each has its role and they dont cross each other. i have another 10/22 on its way for playing dress up (into a VZ61 ;) ) i dont think the 10/22 design is good for precision shooting by nature , just the way that the barrel is mounted, its tough to get consistency
 
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QUOTE=RUSTSPOT;5450590]in that logic,

no matter how bad *insert your fav brand*, its still a * your fav brand* :cool:

back to the main argument.IMO some guns are made to shoot accurate, some are made for cheap tiger time fun. most guns have their role in the market.. i have 2 rim fire rifle ,my savage 93 is for precision shooting, my 1022 is for plinking/ trigger time fun. each has its role and they dont cross each other. i have another 10/22 on its way for playing dress up (into a VZ61 ;) ) i dont think the 10/22 design is good for precision shooting by nature , just the way that the barrel is mounted, its tough to get consistency[/QUOTE]

Yes it is tough but doable, I just bought a MR 10/22 with the carbon fibre barrel and a bentz chamber and it is under 0.5 quite easily at 50yds, I also have a 10/22 I bought off a CGN a while back with a Titan Competition carbon fibre barrel and its the same. Ive got the same MR 10/22 in a WMR and its scary accuate as well. Not sure but I've had excellent luck with these CF barrels. Tried to get some reviews on the titan CF barrel but cant find any , maybe they dont make them anymore. Dont get me wrong I wouldn't take these guns to a serious bench rest competition but they shoot really well and I use them for hunting and playing around only but they are accurate and extremely light weight.
 
I like the comparison you made. I want to get a Mk II sometime, but I do already shoot the ruger 10/22. I find nothing wrong with it, it isn't savage, how can you compare? But in my opinion its not either or, its: both and. 10/22s are fun and plenty accurate enough under 50 yards, they're fun to tinker with and i'm sure a upgraded one could shoot better. As much as the Savage is the Definition of accuracy I think Ruger 10/22 is the definition of fun.
I say get them both though :D
 
A 10/22 will outshoot almost everyone i have ever met from a standing unsupported position. This rifle was made as a plinker and hunting rifle and for that it shines. light, quick to the shoulder, decent sights. MY mark 11 TR clone was built to punch paper and for shooting off the bipod or over a rest. You would not want to carry it in the field - it is Heavy!. What I am a saying is that each rifle is probably the best available at their respective price points for what they were designed to do.

now compare a ruger 10/22 and a savage 64 and see what we get apples to apples
 
IMHO, no matter how well that Savage shoots, it is still a Savage.

Savages are beating out many other brands hands down in the accuracy dept . I always laugh when I hear people say I wont shop at wal-mart as "its beneath me, I am better than that " , Kinda sounds like the statement above ;)
 
My Savage MKIIF shot a few 1 inch 100 meter 5 shot groups with winchester dynapoints the first time I took it to the range. Bought it very slightly used off the EE.

After that day, it has been 1.5 to 2 inch groups. I haven't cleaned the bore in more than 500 shots but experts have said 22LR bore cleaning is not really necessary. Or it could be my lousy shooting.
 
Thankfully shooters ridge are releasing a 25 round mag for marlins in April/may which ought to boost sales of the 795. Considering you can get ATI tactical stocks and soon 25 rounders for a model 795... I think anyone in their right mind would buy that over a 10/22 unless you want a money pit of a gun. Also the rugers are everywhere and the EE is perpetually saturated with them meaning they instantly lose value as soon as you open the box if you buy a new one. It's an illogical investment IMHO.
 
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IMHO, no matter how well that Savage shoots, it is still a Savage.

??? How about, no matter how horrible that ruger shoots, It's still an overpriced fixer upper out of the box... What the hell? Savage has good QC and produces well built guns that consistantly shoot great from gun to gun. What you said makes no sense.
 
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Your comparing a bolt gun to a semi? You might as well compare both to the .223 and say they both suck. :rolleyes: Hey why not get a shotgun in there too, I'd like to see how a 12g with #4's groups compared to your vangaurd. Apples to apples please.

:rolleyes:Seriously? :puke:

So if someones looking for a semi-auto thats accurate but has some room for mods/tinkering besides the 10/22 what other options are out there?

Not a lot. There are a lot better guns on the market than the 10/22 but most of them lack the ability to install mods/tinker with them.
IMHO, no matter how well that Savage shoots, it is still a Savage.


:rolleyes:Seriously? :puke:
 
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My (bone stock) 10/22 does alright.... With a cheap ass $80 3X9 scope. +1 Remington Golden bullets being the WORST ever bullets. Out of the 15 different loads I tested, they were hands down, bottom of the barrel.
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